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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bengoh10jw View Post
    Is this the maximum you can get? I farmed 200 HTB seeds rarity 69, no clover no wisdom ring and no egg benedicts, I got totally different results. I farmed them only once and I got 212 seeds. After planting them I harvested them and got 785 blocks ;-;...
    It's an theoretical estimate, as the practical outcomes are based on chance. Meaning: it will tell you how many seeds you will get if all chance is turned to averages; therefore, you may not get exactly the same amount of seeds, gems or experience that the calculator says but it tells you what to expect.
    Last edited by ID: BEASTLY; 11-10-2015, 09:15 AM.
    New calculator site (in progress): http://beastlygrowtopia.site11.com

    Old calculator thread:
    http://www.growtopiagame.com/forums/...Calculator-Hub

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    • #17
      This is amazing. But there is a slight problem with the math. Not all trees that drop a maximum of 6 aren't farmable, there's specific items which has a higher drop rate than others.


      It would be better if you could select a specific item, whether farmable or not.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Carlo Miguel Velasco View Post
        This is amazing. But there is a slight problem with the math. Not all trees that drop a maximum of 6 aren't farmable, there's specific items which has a higher drop rate than others.


        It would be better if you could select a specific item, whether farmable or not.
        Thanks for your reply.

        When you say 'drop rate' what are you referring to? Earlier, I called the 'drop rate' the maximum fruit from a tree.

        Which trees even drop a maximum of 6?

        What are you suggesting (if you know) determines it being farmable or not? Are you saying that each item has individual values?

        I'll try and make a drop-down to select the item you're farming later.
        New calculator site (in progress): http://beastlygrowtopia.site11.com

        Old calculator thread:
        http://www.growtopiagame.com/forums/...Calculator-Hub

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        • #19
          This is so useful for new farmers!

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          • #20
            whats the maximum fruit per tree for htb im nub sry
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            • #21
              Originally posted by ID: BEASTLY View Post
              Here it is: https://jscalc.io/calc/4L8PtSysT0VkqSwT

              I also made an ATM calculator: http://www.growtopiagame.com/forums/...a-Explanation)

              If you like it, please bump! Bump each time you use it please, too.

              It's an theoretical estimate, as the practical outcomes are based on chance. Meaning: it will tell you how many seeds, gems and experience you will get if all chance is turned to averages that are based on farming data; therefore, you may not get exactly the same amount of seeds, gems or experience that the calculator says, but it tells you what to expect.

              Special thanks to The One Bexinator for supplying many of the formulas and Indicative for helping me with JavaScript. Also, to the forumers for giving me statistics.

              How to Use It

              You will find that the calculator is defaultly set on farming 100 Venus Guytraps, one time. On the left side, input the amount of seeds that you currently have. Input how many times you plan on farming the seeds. Input the rarity of the seed. Input the the maximum number of fruit (blocks/backgrounds) you can get from one tree, without using a harvester—this is called 'drop rate' on Growtopia Wiki. Tick the box if you want to re-farm the profit seeds after each farm (all seeds gained will be farmed again, not stored or sold). Lastly, tick the box if you will use a harvester. And finally, take a look at the right side of the screen to view your calculations! Please note that these are merely estimates—but accurate ones!

              The Formulas

              These formulas have been made with information from the forums and statistics from farming. They may not be dead accurate, as calculations are made on the server and can only be estimated by the client using data from farming.

              I have assumed all possible amounts of fruit from trees have an equal probability. Therefore a drop rate of 8 means an average of 4.5 (sum of 1 to 8, divided by 8), and a drop rate of 4 means an average of 2.5 (sum of 1-4, divided by 4).

              I have not taken into account seeds dropping from trees, simply because I do not have a formula. I will try to add this as soon as possible. In the meantime, the calculator is still fairly accurate.

              When you break a block, I have coded that there is a 25% chance of a seed and a 66.66...% chance of gems. If you don't get gems or a seed, you get a block. When you get gems, if the rarity is below (but not including) 30, you will get an average of rarity/12 gems. If the rarity is 30 or greater, you get rarity/8 gems. Getting nothing counts as getting 0 gems. When you break a tree, you will always be given gems to these formulas.

              I was didn't find it necessary to factor in the extra blocks dropped from blocks, increasing exponentially so that those blocks will also drop blocks (it would be hard). I decided to just factor them in to 5 levels—averageBlocksFromTree*0.000004018 more seeds per farm is the fifth level, so there is clearly no need to go further.

              When you break a tree you get 1+rarity/10 (always rounded down) experience. You get 1 experience from breaking a block or collecting a gem.

              The growing time of a tree is rarity*(rarity^2+30).

              Of course, a harvester will have a 10% chance of doubling fruit and using fuel. Be wary that ecto packs and pine juice do NOT double the fruit.

              Eggs Benedict increases experience by 25% and Ring of Wisdom increases it by 10%, by granting chances of doubling the experience earned. They can stack, granting double, double experience, giving 37.5% (25%+10%+25%*10%) more experience when used together.

              Using mathematical operators on JavaScript, I have combined these formulas to create outputs, such as the ending number of seeds.

              Coming Soon

              I'll add seeds falling out of trees as soon as I find the formula. You are welcome to help me gather data for this. Currently, seeds falling from trees is not taken into account at all—still fairly accurate, though.

              The data will be hard to find, but eventually I'll try and add clover usage. Again, you are welcome to help me find data.

              I'll also add a drop-down box, to select the name of the item you're farming, instead of typing the rarity and drop rate.

              I might try to add an estimation of the labourous time required to farm it as well.

              How You Can Help

              If you wish to help make my calculator better, you can help by testing it and gathering farming data.

              You may like to test one of the formulas that I have used while you farm, otherwise you can test the combined formulas, by using the calculator. I would especially like to test the outcomes of breaking a block further. This will help evaluate the accuracy and improve it.

              Apart from data that tests my formulas, I also need data to approximate the chance of getting a seed from harvesting a tree. Please record and post: how many trees you break, how many seeds fall out of these trees and the type of tree.

              Any data to do with clovers would be great too, as I hope to add compatibility in the future. In particular, I'd like: the type of block you're smashing, how many blocks you smash with clovers, how many times the clover is activated (the pop noise and clover particles), and exactly what you get from the block when it activates.

              Also, as mentioned above, I haven't made a formula to exponentially calculate the extra blocks, from breaking blocks. If you are good at maths or JavaScript, you may like to give it a shot.

              Lastly, please help bump!

              Thanks!
              Nerd!
              IGN-NOBEL21. #airtemplars

              Originally posted by CandleJack
              You know you're playing too much GT when you're in a fight and called your opponent "Noob!".
              Originally posted by Hamumu
              I don't know what you think a "wing" is, but a bunch of fire surrounding you is not it. Wings are things that go flap flap flap. You see them on birds quite commonly, sometimes as many as 2 per bird!
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              • #22
                Originally posted by NOBEL21 View Post
                Nerd!
                No, just clever.

                Is Seth and Hamumu a nerd for programming the drop chances too then?
                -Thadirth

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mrthadawee View Post
                  No, just clever.

                  Is Seth and Hamumu a nerd for programming the drop chances too then?
                  Um nah because it's needed for the game. By the way I was only joking with him.
                  IGN-NOBEL21. #airtemplars

                  Originally posted by CandleJack
                  You know you're playing too much GT when you're in a fight and called your opponent "Noob!".
                  Originally posted by Hamumu
                  I don't know what you think a "wing" is, but a bunch of fire surrounding you is not it. Wings are things that go flap flap flap. You see them on birds quite commonly, sometimes as many as 2 per bird!
                  Follow my growtopia insta, it's called nobelgt. Make sure to follow me.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by JML2000 View Post
                    whats the maximum fruit per tree for htb im nub sry
                    High Tech Blocks can drop 8 fruit.

                    If you're unsure, you can look this up on Growtopia Wiki. It is listed as 'drop rate'.
                    New calculator site (in progress): http://beastlygrowtopia.site11.com

                    Old calculator thread:
                    http://www.growtopiagame.com/forums/...Calculator-Hub

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Hans View Post
                      I don't like numbers, more particularly Math. I suck at it. Just a lil' appreciation from your ol' pal Hanshhhhhhh.
                      Calculator does all the math for you, hehe.
                      New calculator site (in progress): http://beastlygrowtopia.site11.com

                      Old calculator thread:
                      http://www.growtopiagame.com/forums/...Calculator-Hub

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                      • #26
                        bookmarked
                        Originally posted by Lugeja
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                        • #27
                          Give it a try, everyone!
                          New calculator site (in progress): http://beastlygrowtopia.site11.com

                          Old calculator thread:
                          http://www.growtopiagame.com/forums/...Calculator-Hub

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                          • #28
                            Sweet

                            Free bump
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by xLagger View Post
                              Free bump
                              Thanks.

                              And again...
                              New calculator site (in progress): http://beastlygrowtopia.site11.com

                              Old calculator thread:
                              http://www.growtopiagame.com/forums/...Calculator-Hub

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                              • #30
                                *Bookmarks Thread*

                                Very useful for Farmers
                                Last edited by Wibah; 11-11-2015, 11:16 AM. Reason: Added something..
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