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  • #31
    Originally posted by GRRM View Post
    tl;dr I just want you to know that they have been doing this since April 1st. They just only announced it formerly. So nothing is really changing except for the awareness.
    lol?
    That doesn't mean it's a good thing to do

    Oh I destroyed the economy a few months ago, but I only just announced it now! Nothing is really changing!

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    • #32
      Ubisoft usually doesn't read huge walls of text, they skim through one or two points, answer them and ignore the rest.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by GRRM View Post
        tl;dr I just want you to know that they have been doing this since April 1st. They just only announced it formerly. So nothing is really changing except for the awareness.
        Calling bs on this.
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        • #34
          It doesn't mean anything actually. They just want us to protect our world (like we always do) until they're capable enough to solve their own problems without our help (just like what they always do).
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          • #35
            Originally posted by GRRM View Post
            It doesn't mean anything actually. They just want us to protect our world (like we always do) until they're capable enough to solve their own problems without our help (just like what they always do).
            "protect our world" doesn't mean nuking them because there's a bunch of annoying autofarmers which aren't really our problem. That's more like getting players to do your dirty work.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by awesome178 View Post
              "protect our world" doesn't mean nuking them because there's a bunch of annoying autofarmers which aren't really our problem.
              Being punished for someone else's actions basically.
              You know if the bfg owner is advertising that autofarmers 3wl thing fair play but punishing players for other players actions is completely wrong.

              Yet they don't follow up on world's that use spammers to advertise LOL
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              • #37
                Give me one good argument as to why BFG world owners should be punished, considering the world owner does not tolerate autofarmers, but wasn't in the world when the moderator came and saw autofarmers.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by NekoRei View Post
                  Here's a tip, you can pull the autofarmer to you and if he stops moving it's a bot (esp. if does not respond to you) and normally real players they will respond to you when you talk to them. Plus if they look suspicious just kick them out just to be safe.
                  Autofarmers are not as dumb as they seem. Most of them are very smart and are always keeping a lookout in case the owner tries to catch them red-handed.
                  Pulling them is the worse option ever because both autofarmers and non autofarmers will obviously stop moving. You’d be banning an innocent player instead. They tend to increase their volume up so they can hear if they are being pulled or not.

                  Adding on to that, turning off the magplant for a few seconds may help but what if there’s more than 1 autofarmers in the world? They will all start to stay alert and stop their autofarming thing as soon as we turn off the magplant again.

                  I’ve been doing this job for more than 20 times already. My BFG is a paid BFG and sometimes we do not have time to check on autofarmers because there are customers and time is money. It’s not that we allow autofarmers but it’s just not that easy to spot one. There’s one time my BFG is all filled with Autoclickers, 12 to be exact(full house in my world). Of course I got a lot of free gems but what I’m saying is there’s just too many for us to focus on and nagyon little time till we need to refill our magplant again.
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                  • #39
                    I do agree with the punishment only IF the owner allowed the auto-farmer to farm in his BFG, but if the owner has no idea - it'll be hard considering most BFGs has a population of 20-30 people. It'd be hard to keep track of who auto-farms and who does not, most especially if you can't tell if the person is auto-farming even (not unless you try and talk with every person in your world). I do hope they reconsider this change, or at least add a function that'll help detect which auto-farms like a security question per 5 minutes and so.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by GRRM View Post
                      First of all, autofarmers can't be contained. They have unlimited access. We're talking about a little responsibility here as a BFG owner. When you see one of those one-hitters lurking in your world, you gotta ban them. This is very expected of you. Now I know a lot of people are just careless that they pretend to play innocent. Knowing that you don't even care about who and what they're doing in your world literally means that you really need a warning as a lesson.
                      So literally you are agreing, all buy+ world owners should get a warning for having autospammers advertising casinos in their worlds and not banning them? (Same logic).

                      I do care what happens in my world and I do ban and encourage players to report auto. But I will miss ppl because I can't monitor all the time. I'm most afraid I will risk my mags because a mod "happens" to pass by when I'm not there or even worse! I'm there but missed an auto... that's why I want more specific information. Will they check log? Will they see owner do ban ppl? Or will they judge from what they see in the moment?

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                      • #41
                        It's sad that Ubisoft is doing this...
                        I will use an ****ogy to illustrate my point.

                        A man buys a knife from salesman1
                        The man uses it to stab people
                        Ubisoft (The law enforcing authority): Salesman1 should be arrested for providing the man with the means to kill people! (Just like BFG owners are getting their worlds nuked for providing autofarmers with a platform to autofarm)

                        Excuse me, but what sort of logic is that?

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                        • #42
                          This is a joke, right?

                          For the record, im a player who doesn't play anymore. I haven't played for months.

                          I still follow the forums, and from what I noticed recently is the new "autofarmers in your bfg will get you banned" thing is so ridiculous me and my team literally couldn't believe this at first.
                          I was never doing massive amounts of BFGs (I used to own BFGLIST though), I just had a couple of bfgs, and when I hosted them I couldn't care less if someone is an autofarmer or not - because they're getting themselves banned and that's their choice.

                          I think the new rule is a huge slap to the face of people who do bfgs. Not even alot! Even to a person who has a single bfg. He can just monitor it, right?
                          This is a game for kids - I am sure there are players who don't even know what an autofarmer is; let alone distinguish them from a normal player.

                          You expect players to pull people out of rooms? Horrible idea. People will instantly scream "You scammed my gems" and you will gain a bad reputation.
                          Check by initiating a conversation? Terrible idea. There are players who may not be able to answer - having chat set to "friends only" or simply not knowing English.

                          I am sure there's a hundred other reasons why this is an incredibly bad change, but I simply cannot list them.

                          I think it's up to moderators/devs to take care of autofarmers. I know it's a fight that may be very hard to win, but I don't think that involving innocent players will serve you well.

                          Don't really know what else to say, just wanted to let staff know what I think about this, and I see i'm not the only one having a negative opinion regarding this idea.

                          Other reasons why this is stupid:
                          Originally posted by ROOTbeerr View Post
                          Also, they don’t hold BUY world owners responsible for spammers; they are dealt with by the moderators. Yet BFG owners are held responsible and threatened with nukes if they have autofarmers in their world? The moderators don’t help BFG owners I guess, only threaten to ban them.

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                          • #43
                            My 2-cents on the New Announcement on BFGs and Auto Farmers.

                            Right to the point,

                            It's a healthy change in my opinion, and overall a good choice. (If put better care into)
                            If you own a BFG it is your responsibility to watch over Auto-Farmers and Everything.

                            Pros & Cons of the System:

                            Pros:
                            - Actually makes bfg owners care about their bfg, and overall watch over it more.
                            - There'll be less auto-farmers since game dev's are actually taking auto-farmers seriously (Finally).

                            Cons:
                            - There's no humanly way to find out everyone Auto-ing, we can only find out people who don't watch over their bots.
                            - Getting your world banned Permanently is not great as well, it reduces the Pool of worlds in growtopia, and more.
                            - If the owner of the world bans everyone who he/she deems "Auto-ing", and whoever's left are Semi-Auto bots (Those who watch over their bots), but still receives a Punishment won't be worth.

                            Tl;dr:
                            Currently we have no reliable system to track down auto-farmers as a Normal Player, It's probably better to delay this new rule from being implemented, until we have a better precaution for Auto-Farmers.

                            I know this thread isn't useful, but i'm just giving my Opinion.
                            Hope the developers take something out of this.
                            Last edited by Niome; 06-03-2019, 03:32 PM. Reason: Corrected myself, for clearler opinion.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by NekoRei View Post
                              We just wanted to be clear about this so that everyone is aware also because we want to let BFG world owners know that we will be warning them instead of just nuking their worlds without notice.
                              What if the world owner is offline and unable to respond? Will he maintain a record of "unresponded requests" that eventually get the world nuked?
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                              • #45
                                Hello Houz,

                                We understand your frustration, everyone does, really.

                                And no, this isn't a joke, everyone hoped it was too!

                                Anyways, good luck with your BFG service
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