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  • #16
    Originally posted by Shawn Wilson View Post
    You could make the argument that everything in the game should be easy to get. It wouldn't be Growtopia any more if you take away the work involved. It would take away the feeling of achievement that some players get from all the hard work they put into the game over the years.

    I think to many people look at the end result and not the journey. You have to understand if something looks hard for you then it also must be just as hard for anybody because we all start the game lv1 with nothing.
    I agree with this quote.

    To the OP:
    Times have changed. I noticed how you mentioned something about how Glowy Blicks used to be 5/wl and how these new blocks are about a wl each.

    Well, let me ask you this, were you as poor as you were when Glowy Blocks were 5/wl compared to now? Probably not. Inflation of world locks. It's really a bit problematic. Everyone from your time now has alot of world locks(most likely, or even if not, some people do).

    This can also be compared to how If someone made a pure Glowy Block world in the past, they would be considered a mad man who is filthy rich. Now if someone uses Glowy Blocks, sure, they are kinda rich, but compared to everyone else, there are alot more pros.

    Basically what's important is the average net cost per player. In the past, lets say 100 wls. Now in the present, lets say their net worth on average is 10 dls(not like I know anything, but pretty sure this can be semi-accurate).

    The difference in how much the past average you has to the present you would be x10(again, not like I can confirm this is true). Unlike where Glowy Blocks which were 5/wl(being the most expensive block at the time) and all your stated blocks being 1 wl on average about, it only is a x5 difference.



    Ok, that was confusing and not sure if you get what I mean't. To restate/summarize:
    The average player net worth rises faster than the average most expensive block price's worth.
    They are two types of people in the world. Me and not me.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Malware View Post
      Times have changed. I noticed how you mentioned something about how Glowy Blicks used to be 5/wl and how these new blocks are about a wl each.

      Well, let me ask you this, were you as poor as you were when Glowy Blocks were 5/wl compared to now? Probably not. Inflation of world locks. It's really a bit problematic. Everyone from your time now has alot of world locks(most likely, or even if not, some people do).

      This can also be compared to how If someone made a pure Glowy Block world in the past, they would be considered a mad man who is filthy rich. Now if someone uses Glowy Blocks, sure, they are kinda rich, but compared to everyone else, there are alot more pros.

      Basically what's important is the average net cost per player. In the past, lets say 100 wls. Now in the present, lets say their net worth on average is 10 dls(not like I know anything, but pretty sure this can be semi-accurate).

      The difference in how much the past average you has to the present you would be x10(again, not like I can confirm this is true). Unlike where Glowy Blocks which were 5/wl(being the most expensive block at the time) and all your stated blocks being 1 wl on average about, it only is a x5 difference.
      The average player net worth rises faster than the average most expensive block price's worth.
      I totally do not agree with this;

      As you said, even if avarage player worts rises, they still can't spend 10-20dls for one world, we can see this from current worlds. Almost %99,9 of them builded with old blocks, because there is cheaper and little less cool blocks. But after two years, it's getting really boring to use old blocks. People getting boring to use them and they just stopped to build nice main worlds. Everyone just forget growtopia biggest motto, Punch-Build-Grow. Even if you can spend 2000wls(YOU CAN'T!) for new blocks, there is still a problem! You can't even find them because of amount of seller.

      I'm telling this to these developers who make recipes for new items; Just play with your alt accounts, spend 100wls to build castle themed world... Probably devs can't even find these blocks from players because there is reason for how expensive are new blocks. They are so rare! I just tried to buy castle stone for one hour and i just found 100 Castle stone for 1per wls..

      How can you still support these ridiculous prices guys. Probably most of you guys didn't even tried to build a world with New blocks.
      Last edited by GrowPixel; 09-17-2019, 11:37 AM.
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      • #18
        Why would you not question a clothing item worth let's say 60dls but a single block costing 1wl?

        Try to think of this: a world with all those rare blocks is equivalent to a pair of golden angel wings or something like that. Nobody ever said that you should only waste wls on clothes as most people do. In fact as you said building is one of the major features of the game so it is only logical to have rare blocks as it is to have rare clothes.

        Now you wouldn't complain about certain clothing being expensive in fact it's a crucial part of the game as people set their goals to get a certain item and grind for it for years. Same with worlds if someone doesn't want to buy expensive wings let him build an expensive world.
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        • #19
          SURPRISE! Another unbalanced 2 new blocks from Time-Tossed update for Zombie Event, Sandbag Wall and Barbed Wire Barrier. Both of them drops only 1 Block from synthesizing a chemical, and current price 3-4 WLS each (You can find maximum 15 blocks, there is only 5 seller on board) Just buff them to 10blocks per reward...
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          • #20
            About the summer Clash how about during the Clash the blocks are spliceable only when it is guild event?

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            • #21
              Just a note: Rngs can be abused, If you meant to say that u buy it, you get a chest to break then, Ok

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              • #22
                Originally posted by GrowPixel View Post
                SURPRISE! Another unbalanced 2 new blocks from Time-Tossed update for Zombie Event, Sandbag Wall and Barbed Wire Barrier. Both of them drops only 1 Block from synthesizing a chemical, and current price 3-4 WLS each (You can find maximum 15 blocks, there is only 5 seller on board) Just buff them to 10blocks per reward...
                I like how you just ignore the replies that justify an opinion different than yours.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by EerieGt View Post
                  I like how you just ignore the replies that justify an opinion different than yours.
                  I replied almost all replies from who has different opinions if you check this thread. But your reply was so absurd;

                  Originally posted by EerieGt View Post
                  Why would you not question a clothing item worth let's say 60dls but a single block costing 1wl?

                  Try to think of this: a world with all those rare blocks is equivalent to a pair of golden angel wings or something like that. Nobody ever said that you should only waste wls on clothes as most people do. In fact as you said building is one of the major features of the game so it is only logical to have rare blocks as it is to have rare clothes.

                  Now you wouldn't complain about certain clothing being expensive in fact it's a crucial part of the game as people set their goals to get a certain item and grind for it for years. Same with worlds if someone doesn't want to buy expensive wings let him build an expensive world.
                  If you really read my thread, and check this thing in-game, you will understand me. This kind of blocks so expensive because they are super rare. Even if you want to build a world with them, you can't because nobody sells them! Also are you really accept paying 4wls for 1 Barred Wire Barrier or other new blocks? If you do, probably you don't like to build something in-game..

                  Also as you said sometimes there should be expensive Decoration items such as Crystal Tree or Crystal Clock. But if you check the last updates since 2018. Almost all of these new blocks are 1per wls. Is this what you want? Or just i want to ask you this, Do you like to building something in-game? If you do, let us to check your world that you builded it with new blocks..
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by GrowPixel View Post
                    I replied almost all replies from who has different opinions if you check this thread. But your reply was so absurd;



                    If you really read my thread, and check this thing in-game, you will understand me. This kind of blocks so expensive because they are super rare. Even if you want to build a world with them, you can't because nobody sells them! Also are you really accept paying 4wls for 1 Barred Wire Barrier or other new blocks? If you do, probably you don't like to build something in-game..

                    Also as you said sometimes there should be expensive Decoration items such as Crystal Tree or Crystal Clock. But if you check the last updates since 2018. Almost all of these new blocks are 1per wls. Is this what you want? Or just i want to ask you this, Do you like to building something in-game? If you do, let us to check your world that you builded it with new blocks..
                    I personally love to build but don't have the budget to get all the new blocks but the thing is it's the same as not being able to afford golden angel wings , I won't cry on the forums about it I'll just grind to get enough wls.

                    Also the barbed wire is rediculously easy to obtain in half an hour I got like 3 along with 2 sand bags.

                    So no my argument isn't absurd you are
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                    • #25
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                      These chests feel empty. Adding the most basic blocks to them would revitalise them and give a reliable source of them. Specifically, I'm talking about the Castle Blocks & Backgrounds, Manor Sandstones & Wallpapers, etc.

                      The decor can stay the same (or very rare rewards).
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GrowPixel View Post
                        To be honest, sometimes i feel like developers making these new items for only support specialist that can spawn any item to their inventory.
                        [SPOILER]
                        • While we can't even find 'Shining Block(PAW 2019 Block), Our moderators spawn them to making a world with these blocks.We can't even find more than 5 block even if we find it, it's 3wls EACH, Yes 3wls each!
                        • Another example is Dark Castle Stone and Seasonal Clash Blocks. They are too expensive(1per wls) to make a world or anything. For example from me, 4months ago i planned to build a good world with Dark Castle stones and i started to stock them. But sadly in this 4months i found only 40 blocks for 2per wls. Almost all new blocks price like this.
                        Regarding this one, it is not an issue if we (meaning Ubisoft staff) use these blocks to showcase to players how these items look like and for us (Ubisoft employee) to use these in-game items as part of our community engagement as long as we are not giving those away, or worse, abusing those items or haphazardly let players take those for free to break the economy. Do note that I work at Ubisoft as Community Manager and I do not just "spawn" items for fun and if it is not part of my work.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by NekoRei View Post
                          Regarding this one, it is not an issue if we (meaning Ubisoft staff) use these blocks to showcase to players how these items look like and for us (Ubisoft employee) to use these in-game items as part of our community engagement as long as we are not giving those away, or worse, abusing those items or haphazardly let players take those for free to break the economy. Do note that I work at Ubisoft as Community Manager and I do not just "spawn" items for fun and if it is not part of my work.
                          Whats the point of them showcasing the blocks to players if they're way to rare and expensive for regular players to build with. You've designed all these new blocks which look good, yet they're either extremely expensive or too hard to obtain (making them expensive..)
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by NekoRei View Post
                            Regarding this one, it is not an issue if we (meaning Ubisoft staff) use these blocks to showcase to players how these items look like and for us (Ubisoft employee) to use these in-game items as part of our community engagement as long as we are not giving those away, or worse, abusing those items or haphazardly let players take those for free to break the economy. Do note that I work at Ubisoft as Community Manager and I do not just "spawn" items for fun and if it is not part of my work.
                            Wow nice world mod, How much is the block? Answer : 100 dls.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by NekoRei View Post
                              Regarding this one, it is not an issue if we (meaning Ubisoft staff) use these blocks to showcase to players how these items look like and for us (Ubisoft employee) to use these in-game items as part of our community engagement as long as we are not giving those away, or worse, abusing those items or haphazardly let players take those for free to break the economy. Do note that I work at Ubisoft as Community Manager and I do not just "spawn" items for fun and if it is not part of my work.
                              There is a misunderstanding, personally i don't have any problem with spawned items or blocks by ubisoft staff. The only point to be mentioned is how extremely expensive or hard to obtain almost all new blocks.

                              Also as iiMeowGT stated out, '' Whats the point of them showcasing the blocks to players if they're way to rare and expensive for regular players to build with ''. Almost all kind of blocks from new updates/event is super expensive or hard to obtain, hard to obtain make them super rare and we can't even find more than 50 blocks(Even we find, we can't spend 1-2wls for 1 block). Sometimes i feel like growtopia building part just died because of this. Everyone got bored to build something with 4-5years old blocks. And new blocks have super nice design but they are just so rare and expensive to build something.

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                              Originally posted by EerieGt View Post
                              I personally love to build but don't have the budget to get all the new blocks but the thing is it's the same as not being able to afford golden angel wings , I won't cry on the forums about it I'll just grind to get enough wls.
                              Your forum account created in Feb 2017 and you are probably 3-4years old player. So, while you can't afford to buy new blocks, how you can expect from other players? As you said you love to build something but new items are extremely expensive and rare to buy or build something. Also, blocks and clothes are different, you can get back your wls from clothes by selling them, but you can't do that with blocks.
                              Last edited by GrowPixel; 09-18-2019, 11:05 AM.
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                              • #30
                                These types of blocks needs to become more common. Worlds aren’t supposed to cost 10+ dls, because that’s what you’re gonna pay if you want a big part of your world for example castle/baroque themed.
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