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  • #31
    Originally posted by GrowPixel View Post
    To be honest, sometimes i feel like developers making these new items for only support specialist that can spawn any item to their inventory.

    Another unbalanced blocks are Seasonal Clash Blocks, Few months ago i suggested something about this and finally @Nekorei put my suggestion into the 'Community Suggestion'. It was Seasonal Blocks Pack. Also yes i know this: 'Even if your submission made it to Community Suggestion, it does not mean it will be implemented. But this suggestion was very important because of current amount of event. Like Currently There is 3 Summer event, 3 Spring per year... But the problem is that even we have 12 same event for 3months(last year) These blocks was super rare and expensive. Image current price and how rare is this..

    How to fix this problem?
    Solution 0: This for Dark castle Block, just increase amount of block to 35 blocks per reward. Because Wolf Whistle is 10-15wls and you get only 1 reward per whistle.
    Solution 1: Make a pack for Summer Event that include Every single Summer Clash item, This pack going to be 2500 gems and you will get 5 Different Summer Clash Blocks(Here) and this will depends on the rng like other event packs.
    Solution 2: Make pack for Summer Event that include every single Summer Clash item, But this pack will be 10.000 gems and you can get everysingle Clash Blocks from this pack(there is 24 Different Block)

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    Also with this pack, I'm sure that atleast someone would spend realy money on the gems pack. What do you think guys?
    ANOTHER Problem about blocks: https://www.growtopiagame.com/forums...Blocks-Machine


    New Update's blocks price since 2018
    • Each Gross-Out Mutant Kitchen Blocks: 1-2per wls
    • Each PAW 2019 Blocks: 1-2wls each
    • Each Time-Tossed Blocks: 1-2wls each
    • Each Block Party 2 Items : 1-2per wls
    • Each Spring Clash Blocks: 1-4wls each
    • Each Dragon Invasion Blocks: 1-2per wls
    • Each b.O.O Blocks: 1-2wls each
    • Each Role Up! Blocks: 1-5wls each


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    Also I'm waiting since PAW 2019 for making this thread Because i think like, 'Probably they will put this pack into the store in only event days'.. But sadly there is no any pack and There is thousands of example about unbalanced new blocks...
    What about candle wall sconce?
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Lopyhupis View Post
      What about candle wall sconce?
      There are hundreds of blocks that need to buff(2018-2019 blocks). But there's no point to write it if it's going to change. Still no answer from developers
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      • #33
        Dark castle blocks are not hard to get, i built a friend's main world and gave around 1k stone and 1k bg to techy to make celestemountain.
        http://world.growtopiagame.com/katyalyse.png?at=503705

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        http://world.growtopiagame.com/celes....png?at=250491
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        • #34
          Originally posted by IamIm View Post
          Dark castle blocks are not hard to get, i built a friend's main world and gave around 1k stone and 1k bg to techy to make celestemountain.
          http://world.growtopiagame.com/katyalyse.png?at=503705 And http://world.growtopiagame.com/celes....png?at=250491
          I really wonder how many world have you ever seen with Clash blocks themed. Normal or pro players can't afford that much wls for building world. Also you need to wait like 30mins to get 10 blocks in BUYCASTLE. Reward system make them super rare to get and no one want to sell his 10 blocks because it's not worth to waste time...

          Originally posted by GrowPixel
          Tournament blocks same as others, impossible to find tons of them. Current price is 1-2wls each. Tournament Portcullis 20wls each. Current Blocks drop is 1 block per drop i guess, Buff it to 15blocks per drop.

          I don't know if others notice it but Players just stopped building nice worlds because of new blocks price, only few veteran players spending 10-20dls to build few worlds but normal and pro players just stopped building worlds, please rebalance these items items.
          Tournament blocks need rebalance too.
          Last edited by GrowPixel; 10-15-2019, 10:02 AM.
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          • #35
            32 Days. Still no answer from developers. Please don't ignore this kind of important problems. Players really forgot to biggest part of growtopia, it's building! Most of players still using colored blocks like Red/white/black Blocks, while there is super cool blocks. The problem is we can't get tons blocks because of wrong rewarding system.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by GrowPixel View Post
              32 Days. Still no answer from developers. Please don't ignore this kind of important problems. Players really forgot to biggest part of growtopia, it's building! Most of players still using colored blocks like Red/white/black Blocks, while there is super cool blocks. The problem is we can't get tons blocks because of wrong rewarding system.
              I think its not a good idea to make it easy to obtain
              every thing has a price , as u said that's a cool block which mean it must be hard to obtain, if they make it cheap what do u think?
              its fair to who spending a thousand world lock on it? so just better keep it.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Minamori View Post
                I think its not a good idea to make it easy to obtain,
                every thing has a price , as u said that's a cool block which mean it must be hard to obtain, if they make it cheap what do u think?
                its fair to who spending a thousand world lock on it? so just better keep it.
                Hey, these items don't have a price. 2-3wls each per blocks is not a good price. Also there is reason to be 2-3wls each per block. They are so rare to get tons blocks. Like if you want to build a good world. You have to spend 200-1000wls. Did you saw any worlds with castle blocks/tournament blocks made by normal players?

                Example from Mutant Kitchen blocks, You need eat atleast 10-15wls worth of food to get 10 Mutant Kitchen Blocks. And these guys don't want to sell their blocks because they think it's not worth the time. Less sellers=expensive blocks.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by GrowPixel View Post
                  Hey, these items don't have a price. 2-3wls each per blocks is not a good price. Also there is reason to be 2-3wls each per block. They are so rare to get tons blocks. Like if you want to build a good world. You have to spend 200-1000wls. Did you saw any worlds with castle blocks/tournament blocks made by normal players?

                  Example from Mutant Kitchen blocks, You need eat atleast 10-15wls worth of food to get 10 Mutant Kitchen Blocks. And these guys don't want to sell their blocks because they think it's not worth the time. Less sellers=expensive blocks.
                  Dude, you're naive. These blocks are expensive and there's no problem. If you can't afford to use the blocks use another. If you don't want to use different blocks, then stop complaining and work your way up so you can afford to make a world with these expensive blocks. Using the fact that a "normal player" can't afford to make a world with these blocks is like saying a "normal player" cannot afford a legendary item. Well, NO DUH! They have to work their way up to getting there. Crystal blocks for example are 5 wls each. I've seen full worlds built with them, while many can't afford them. That doesn't mean they should lower the value of those blocks. In a normal economy theres different items that have higher values. It gives player more incentive to try and earn and play the game to be able to afford these blocks.

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                  Like he said about the golden angel wings being 80+ dls. The cost of building a world with these blocks is high, and whats the problem? If you build a world with such a high value it shows how much you've accomplished playing this game. What's the difference between this and expensive items?

                  If you use the argument that these blocks should be accessible to more players with fewer wls. Then, whats to say they shouldn't make expensive items, legendary items, and anything with high cost more cheaper? There would be no point in playing a game and earning wls if all the blocks and items were easily earned.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by austinlame View Post
                    Dude, you're naive. These blocks are expensive and there's no problem. If you can't afford to use the blocks use another. If you don't want to use different blocks, then stop complaining and work your way up so you can afford to make a world with these expensive blocks. Crystal blocks for example are 5 wls each. I've seen full worlds built with them, while many can't afford them. That doesn't mean they should lower the value of those blocks. In a normal economy theres different items that have higher values. It gives player more incentive to try and earn and play the game to be able to afford these blocks.
                    First of all, i can afford all of these new blocks to build 30-50dls worth of worlds but.. I'm thinking about other players. Like tournament is a thing for very long time and i want to ask you this, How many worlds you have ever seen that builded with Tournament blocks or Castle Blocks, Mutant Kitchen blocks, Building Blocks Machine Blocks and other new expensive blocks. No one using them because of the price even if they can afford it. There is only very few players that building with new expensive blocks(VERY VERY FEW!). Also Crystal blocks is different, you can just use 1 blocks to make your world good but like for castle blocks, atleast you have to use 50blocks to do something good.

                    And about this; ''It gives player more incentive to try and earn and play the game to be able to afford these blocks.'' No one trying to earn wls to afford for new blocks, no one.

                    Originally posted by austinlame View Post
                    Like he said about the golden angel wings being 80+ dls. The cost of building a world with these blocks is high, and whats the problem? If you build a world with such a high value it shows how much you've accomplished playing this game. What's the difference between this and expensive items?
                    If you use the argument that these blocks should be accessible to more players with fewer wls. Then, whats to say they shouldn't make expensive items, legendary items, and anything with high cost more cheaper? There would be no point in playing a game and earning wls if all the blocks and items were easily earned.
                    There is huge difference between clothes and blocks, you can buy and sell the expensive clothes for the same price. Also players goal is like getting devil wings,golden angel, legendary items etc.. Did you saw anyone that say '' My goal is building a world with Castle themed world ''? No, because if you spend 20dls on castle themed world. Most probably you can't get back your 20dls again. Building worlds is just losing world locks and players doesn't like it. Even 1-2dls is important for who doing farm to earn wls.
                    Last edited by GrowPixel; 10-15-2019, 02:48 PM.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by GrowPixel View Post
                      First of all, i can afford all of these new blocks to build 30-50dls worth of worlds but.. I'm thinking about other players. Like tournament is a thing for very long time and i want to ask you this, How many worlds you have ever seen that builded with Tournament blocks or Castle Blocks, Mutant Kitchen blocks, Building Blocks Machine Blocks and other new expensive blocks. No one using them because of the price even if they can afford it. There is only very few players that building with new expensive blocks(VERY VERY FEW!). Also Crystal blocks is different, you can just use 1 blocks to make your world good but like for castle blocks, atleast you have to use 50blocks to do something good.

                      And about this; ''It gives player more incentive to try and earn and play the game to be able to afford these blocks.'' No one trying to earn wls to afford for new blocks, no one.



                      There is huge difference between clothes and blocks, you can buy and sell the expensive clothes for the same price. Also players goal is like getting devil wings,golden angel, legendary items etc.. Did you saw anyone that say '' My goal is building a world with Castle themed world ''? No, because if you spend 20dls on castle themed world. Most probably you can't get back your 20dls again. Building worlds is just losing world locks and players doesn't like it. Even 1-2dls is important for who doing farm to earn wls.
                      No, there is no difference and yes I have met people who have set goals in building expensive worlds. Getting a legendary item for example the cheapest is like 75 dls (legendary dragon) and it’s untradeable you can’t get your worldlocks back. Yet, people make that their goal.

                      Also, people build full worlds with crystal blocks. “People can use 1 block and make their word look good” is just an opinion. I can say that about castle blocks too. It’s an opinion. Some people think you need at least 200 crystal blocks at least to make your word look good.

                      Using the argument that they won’t get their worldlocks back is just invalid. People set goals like getting maxed ancestrals and legendary items which are all untradeable. So no there is no difference between worlds and clothes items.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by GrowPixel View Post
                        First of all, i can afford all of these new blocks to build 30-50dls worth of worlds but.. I'm thinking about other players. Like tournament is a thing for very long time and i want to ask you this, How many worlds you have ever seen that builded with Tournament blocks or Castle Blocks, Mutant Kitchen blocks, Building Blocks Machine Blocks and other new expensive blocks. No one using them because of the price even if they can afford it. There is only very few players that building with new expensive blocks(VERY VERY FEW!). Also Crystal blocks is different, you can just use 1 blocks to make your world good but like for castle blocks, atleast you have to use 50blocks to do something good.

                        And about this; ''It gives player more incentive to try and earn and play the game to be able to afford these blocks.'' No one trying to earn wls to afford for new blocks, no one.



                        There is huge difference between clothes and blocks, you can buy and sell the expensive clothes for the same price. Also players goal is like getting devil wings,golden angel, legendary items etc.. Did you saw anyone that say '' My goal is building a world with Castle themed world ''? No, because if you spend 20dls on castle themed world. Most probably you can't get back your 20dls again. Building worlds is just losing world locks and players doesn't like it. Even 1-2dls is important for who doing farm to earn wls.
                        I think if the designer design it good they can even sell it for higher to pro player
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by austinlame View Post
                          No, there is no difference and yes I have met people who have set goals in building expensive worlds. Getting a legendary item for example the cheapest is like 75 dls (legendary dragon) and it’s untradeable you can’t get your worldlocks back. Yet, people make that their goal.

                          Also, people build full worlds with crystal blocks. “People can use 1 block and make their word look good” is just an opinion. I can say that about castle blocks too. It’s an opinion. Some people think you need at least 200 crystal blocks at least to make your word look good.

                          Using the argument that they won’t get their worldlocks back is just invalid. People set goals like getting maxed ancestrals and legendary items which are all untradeable. So no there is no difference between worlds and clothes items.
                          As i said, there is really few players, i didn't really saw any world that builded with castle blocks (and other expensive blocks) since 2018. Yes, there is few builded world like that but their owners must likely 5-7 years old players, they are super rich and there is max 100 world like that. I think everyone should reach to this kind of amazing blocks.

                          Also, since you can talk like this, you are builder and you builded a world with expensive blocks right? But... probably you are not builder, and probably you didn't even try to build something with expensive blocks(If you did, let us to see your world)... This kind of blocks so expensive because they are super rare. Even if you want to build a world with them, you can't because nobody sell the expensive blocks! Also are you really accept paying 2wls for 1 Barred Wire Barrier or other new blocks? If you do, probably you don't like to build something in-game..
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                          • #43
                            B.O.O Update Blocks

                            4 B.O.O Update blocks same as others again... Impossible to find any of them. Current price is unknown, There is only 1 world that have bulletin board and vend machine(in BUYWHITEBRICKS) and nobody sell these blocks. Reason is It's cost 18wls to get 10 Blocks and chance of the getting this block is like 20%. You need to spend 60-70wls to get only 10 blocks.

                            Solution is buff.
                            Buff them to 50 blocks per drop because if we want to use these blocks, We have to do this ourselves.. Also recipe is Boss goo(8-10wls) + 40 Ghost in Jar(10wls) + Only 20% chance to get. So, it's gonna cost like 2-3per wls.

                            Blocks: White Brick Wall x50 / White Brick Pillar x50 / Fuse Box x10 / Dumpster x10

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                            TESTED
                            Today i got chance to test this problem, Used 15 Boss Goo (150wls) + 450 Ghost in Jar (90wls). And got these items from 240wls... (No, you can't get expensive ssu item if you want to get blocks.(You need to drop 30 Gij + 1 Boss goo to get block rewards))

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                            • #44
                              Another Block from Time-Tossed!

                              Ruined Bricks, Recipe: Mutated Seed(70wls) + Sidewalk Seed. So, Making 4 blocks cost 70wls...

                              Instead of making these items based on rng or rewards. Make them spliceable and put them in rsp/ssp.
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                              • #45
                                Finally some blocks have good drops from Halloween. Like 15 Bone platform, 7 bone checkpoint. These things was like 1drop per rewards in old events. Thanks :=) Now waiting for Winter Clash pack
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