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  • Originally posted by Leqend of Legend View Post
    Why would you think that I made this entire poll just to get me unbanned. What do you only focus on the fact that I was banned. Look I dont even care about getting banned. How about focus on other reasons why people got banned. Not a single comment did I mentioned that I want to get unbanned...
    Ah, so your activism for the non-existent pool of innocent suspended players was brought upon coincidentally with your own suspension?
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    • Many people have gotten auto banned by flying glitch and when they email support, they dont get unban.

      I know it's illegal to pretend to be a mod and all but does it deserve a suspension when one jokes SB about being a mod

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      Originally posted by Bloodwing View Post
      Ah, so your activism for the non-existent pool of innocent suspended players was brought upon coincidentally with your own suspension?



      Why is that so? I was banned almost 4 months ago and the only reason I started this is due to the large number of players slowly being removed from the game. Some of which are even my friends. I get so many messages about people being suspended either for no reason/ they dont know why/ the reason wasnt deserving for a PERMANENT suspension.
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      • Originally posted by Leqend of Legend View Post

        Why is that so? I was banned almost 4 months ago and the only reason I started this is due to the large number of players slowly being removed from the game. Some of which are even my friends. I get so many messages about people being suspended either for no reason/ they dont know why/ the reason wasnt deserving for a PERMANENT suspension.
        Do you understand what I said?
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        • Originally posted by Leqend of Legend View Post

          I get so many messages about people being suspended either for no reason/ they dont know why/ the reason wasnt deserving for a PERMANENT suspension.
          Anyone can lie on the internet to be the innocent one just like what you’re doing right now. If you can lie about caring for other’s suspensions/bans, they can too.

          Just so you know, devs do give players 2nd chances. It just so happens that players don’t go around publicly announcing that they got a 2nd chance to live.

          If you don’t know the whole story, you can’t stand for it. If you stand on a building with no support, you’re gonna fall. Right now your problem is you can’t tell which crimes deserve which punishment. You can’t just go around pointing fingers at people without an open mind and not looking at yourself in the mirror...
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          • Originally posted by RaySia View Post
            Just so you know, devs do give players 2nd chances. It just so happens that players don’t go around publicly announcing that they got a 2nd chance to live.
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            • Originally posted by Corrects View Post
              Oh, that's nice
              It's all based on the mood!
              No it isn't.
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              • Originally posted by Bloodwing View Post
                No it isn't.
                Then they should be punished, instead of having a second chance, just like all other punished players did
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                • Originally posted by Leqend of Legend View Post
                  What do you talk as if you know everything? This is obviously the only thing you think of when you dont even have an open mind. I have said several times in my earlier messages of the various reasons why people get banned and some dont even sound so serious that they deserved to be banned permanently. They definitely did something wrong and they deserve a punishment such as up to 2 years ban but not suspension.
                  Having an open mind? when you're literally running a game with 100k+ active players? that never ends well,this isn't some friendship group where they should be more open minded and casually give someone a second chance. Removing permanent suspensions is just gonna affect the game in bad way
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                  • I Agree there should be a less harsh punishment than permanent ban but just for people who "Cross the Barrier"
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                    • Originally posted by Liquify View Post
                      Having an open mind? when you're literally running a game with 100k+ active players? that never ends well,this isn't some friendship group where they should be more open minded and casually give someone a second chance. Removing permanent suspensions is just gonna affect the game in bad way
                      Hi liquify. i agree with you. It's hard to run the game and all. Mods might make wrong decisions by mistake. Sometimes players get banned for doing something wrong and lie about it to sound innocent. However still, dont you think some crimes deserve a 730 day ban or 360 day han which is already SUPER long.

                      Not to mention, some people get ban for really a wrong reason and they are innocent. Their friend might have sabotaged them and got them banned by giving them admin in a world and building a casino.

                      Suspensions should still be in the game but only reserved for game breakers, exploiters and hackers. However, even after coming back from a really long ban, if the player repeats the crime, they should be suspended
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                      • Hey. Let me tell you about my view.

                        First of all, the poll is wrong and suspensions should defineitely still be there. EDIT: After reading earlier of your comments, i see what you mean.

                        I got suspended for doing something which i truly didnt do wrong( i was innocent). Basically, someone had passed me a free steampunk wings and i kept it in my backpack. After 1 week, i got suspended and realised that the person was a hacker. Support never unbanned me as they thought i was helping a hacker. Ive seen several friends and inncoent people get banned. At the same time, ive seen people get suspended for soemthing they did that wasnt too serious. I think it will be a good idea to change suspensions to a 360, max 730 day ban. It is already long enough for someone who did soemthing wrong to learn their lesson or someone who got banned for no reason to AT LEAST have a chance to be back even thought doing nothing wrong. However, like u said, game breakers should be suspended for life such as hackers/ spammers/ IAP frauds etc. Others should be given a really long ban. Its not really a 2nd chance imo, its just a fair punishment. BUT lke you said, they must be suspended if they repeat the crime. i think ur point is fair as ive been through suspensions along with tons of friends and people i know, also random people. Just saying, ur POLL is WRONGGGG but i get what u mean.

                        ITs a really good suggestion to change the community but ubisoft probably wont consider it as they know that the game is already "perfect". Im not sure if they want to bring back innocent/ players who committed minor offences back. They probably just continue as what the game is right now. Honestly, so many people are getting SUSPENDED, not even banned. The game is really dying, quite sad.

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                        • Originally posted by Leqend of Legend View Post
                          Hi liquify. i agree with you. It's hard to run the game and all. Mods might make wrong decisions by mistake. Sometimes players get banned for doing something wrong and lie about it to sound innocent. However still, dont you think some crimes deserve a 730 day ban or 360 day han which is already SUPER long.

                          Not to mention, some people get ban for really a wrong reason and they are innocent. Their friend might have sabotaged them and got them banned by giving them admin in a world and building a casino.

                          Suspensions should still be in the game but only reserved for game breakers, exploiters and hackers. However, even after coming back from a really long ban, if the player repeats the crime, they should be suspended
                          We can never have an honest discussion about fairness and severity of suspensions. We will never be able to have the information to verify the exact details behind any person suspended. Ubisoft will not divulge the information or allow people to discuss thier bans.

                          I don't think policing an online community is an exact science. Ubisoft had the money to purchase the game and ultimately they have the final say. I can only assume they are acting on the best interest of the game. There is no benefit from banning or suspending anyone except that you are temporarily or permanently removing someone in thier eyes that is causing harm to the game.

                          As a player who likes Growtopia I have no choice but to abide by the rules if I want to continue the game. I'm not a sensitive person personally. I don't get offended by vulgar things. I myself have a sick and twisted sense of humor. I don't care about gambling and casinos. I however am aware I am not allowed to act in certain ways and in Growtopia I don't. It doesn't matter if I think a rule is important or not. What matters is Ubisoft in fact does enforce the rules they set. It doesn't matter what I think about the rules, if I disagree that strongly I won't play the game.

                          In some situations it won't be fair. A persons little brother could sneak on his account and cause a ban. How is there anyway to know who is behind a keyboard without invading a persons privacy? They have no choice but to always treat your account like it is you playing. In some ways things are situational but cannot be responded to situationally.

                          Also I don't "think" many people actually get banned or suspended and accept it in a mature way. I don't think many players have the self awareness to understand they did wrong and accept thier fate and come back better.

                          I would assume that many banned players will claim to be innocent and argue with support and try to minimize thier wrong action. I think many people underestimate how deep they can look into your account.

                          360 days and 730 days bans is a long time. You are missing out on a lot of holiday/events. I don't know how a person can keep interested and try to stay connected to something for that long when they are not allowed to play. I know I couldn't. I also think a majority of players ban evade.

                          The things I think and assume I won't try to claim as fact. Let's just say I would be very interested in knowing the percentage of players that waste supports time and ban evade compared to players that fully accept thier ban and never break any rules again.

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                          • Originally posted by Corrects View Post
                            Then they should be punished, instead of having a second chance, just like all other punished players did
                            The crime they gave 2nd chance to doesn’t involve harm to the community unlike every examples mentioned in this thread...

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                            Originally posted by Leqend of Legend View Post
                            Hi liquify. i agree with you. It's hard to run the game and all. Mods might make wrong decisions by mistake. Sometimes players get banned for doing something wrong and lie about it to sound innocent. However still, dont you think some crimes deserve a 730 day ban or 360 day han which is already SUPER long.

                            Not to mention, some people get ban for really a wrong reason and they are innocent. Their friend might have sabotaged them and got them banned by giving them admin in a world and building a casino.
                            You really still think those bans were unjustified... You should take the time and think about what’s wrong with all those crimes you’ve mentioned and why it deserved the ban they were given.
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                            • Originally posted by Shawn Wilson View Post
                              We can never have an honest discussion about fairness and severity of suspensions. We will never be able to have the information to verify the exact details behind any person suspended. Ubisoft will not divulge the information or allow people to discuss thier bans.

                              I don't think policing an online community is an exact science. Ubisoft had the money to purchase the game and ultimately they have the final say. I can only assume they are acting on the best interest of the game. There is no benefit from banning or suspending anyone except that you are temporarily or permanently removing someone in thier eyes that is causing harm to the game.

                              As a player who likes Growtopia I have no choice but to abide by the rules if I want to continue the game. I'm not a sensitive person personally. I don't get offended by vulgar things. I myself have a sick and twisted sense of humor. I don't care about gambling and casinos. I however am aware I am not allowed to act in certain ways and in Growtopia I don't. It doesn't matter if I think a rule is important or not. What matters is Ubisoft in fact does enforce the rules they set. It doesn't matter what I think about the rules, if I disagree that strongly I won't play the game.

                              In some situations it won't be fair. A persons little brother could sneak on his account and cause a ban. How is there anyway to know who is behind a keyboard without invading a persons privacy? They have no choice but to always treat your account like it is you playing. In some ways things are situational but cannot be responded to situationally.

                              Also I don't "think" many people actually get banned or suspended and accept it in a mature way. I don't think many players have the self awareness to understand they did wrong and accept thier fate and come back better.

                              I would assume that many banned players will claim to be innocent and argue with support and try to minimize thier wrong action. I think many people underestimate how deep they can look into your account.

                              360 days and 730 days bans is a long time. You are missing out on a lot of holiday/events. I don't know how a person can keep interested and try to stay connected to something for that long when they are not allowed to play. I know I couldn't. I also think a majority of players ban evade.

                              The things I think and assume I won't try to claim as fact. Let's just say I would be very interested in knowing the percentage of players that waste supports time and ban evade compared to players that fully accept thier ban and never break any rules again.
                              Hey man, i know 1-2 years ban is super long. Its already a very decent punishment. After spending hours and time to grow hard and work hard, i wouldnt mind coming back even after a long ban. Also, its hard to express how it feels when i get banned for no reason.I also have many friends who got banned. One got banned for chatting with a moderator and complained about another moderator showing poor behaviour and used the term "stupid", "dumb" to call the moderator. This got him suspended. Another, saw people getting duct taped when they SBed inappropraite stuff and wanted to be taped to. He sbed "bik dig", and it got him suspended instead of duct tape/ normal ban. I also know people who get suspended for something that is not even a serious offence like my friend called soemone "gay" as a joke in a SB and got suspended for that.

                              Once again, whatever they did was wrong and they shouldnt have done it. But i dont think they deserved to be perma banned. AT least a long ban will teach them a lesson to repeat. As for my case, im wordless. The least ubisoft could do was change suspensions to 730 day bans/ 360 day bans depending on severity and the number of times the offender did it.

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                              Originally posted by RaySia View Post
                              The crime they gave 2nd chance to doesn’t involve harm to the community unlike every examples mentioned in this thread...

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                              You really still think those bans were unjustified... You should take the time and think about what’s wrong with all those crimes you’ve mentioned and why it deserved the ban they were given.
                              I saw the post and like over 200 people responded how they got banned. Mostly some dont know why they got banned and say support just give them auto reply of a very generic reason. Some, did things wrong but they try to sound innocent. Sound committed small crimes that dont even deserve perma ban. Some got truly banned for no reason....

                              Welp, i guess your a perfect person who does everything right but i guess not everyone is. people make mistakes.

                              I mean just think of it. My brother got suspended too because he used same WIFI as me and they thought I was ban evading.

                              Once again, all the reasons are coming from the players itself, there is no garuntee if its real or fake. However, it is up to you to believe it or not. Theres a lot more going on than what you think.

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                              • Originally posted by feedbackerr View Post
                                Welp, i guess your a perfect person who does everything right but i guess not everyone is. people make mistakes.

                                I mean just think of it. My brother got suspended too because he used same WIFI as me and they thought I was ban evading.

                                Once again, all the reasons are coming from the players itself, there is no garuntee if its real or fake. However, it is up to you to believe it or not. Theres a lot more going on than what you think.
                                You don’t have to be perfect to have some sense. One thing for everyone to know; if you didn’t do anything wrong, you wouldn’t appear on the logs. iP-Address van is actually commonly used in many online games. Yes it’s inefficient but it’s the most effective. Again, it’s an SOP on many online games to ban players’ iP Address.

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                                Originally posted by feedbackerr View Post
                                Another, saw people getting duct taped when they SBed inappropraite stuff and wanted to be taped to. He sbed "bik dig", and it got him suspended instead of duct tape/ normal ban. I also know people who get suspended for something that is not even a serious offence like my friend called soemone "gay" as a joke in a SB and got suspended for that.
                                I regretted taking you seriously... Just use some sense, it isn’t that hard.
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