I just realized how VERY poor, people are in this game

[ScammePlse]

For those who had already read the post, good for you.

But after awhile I realized there's no point in posting on forum on subjects or perspectives on the obvious any longer.

Cause for some reason, it feels discouraging bringing something small up and it later becomes slightly disturbing to those who disagree. People start replying to these subjects in such a hostile-like manner, pointing out every slight flaws, criticizing to the depths of the post, from grammars to practically anything. It also doesn't just stops there, it later extends to further disputes, in which later becomes a total warzone in some other threads. And it's been like this probably even before I joined. It's like a mini warzone within threads between people who believe their right, instead of discussing and asking themselves, Does this guy sound logical to a degree? Instead of I'm rich, I have these benefits. Those below seem like their doing well, cause I'm doing well. So their doing good. And yeah, well who gives a shet about others after that, right?

If I was so much an a- hole to you then you have my apology. But this is the forum, we can joke, we can laugh, we can discuss. But when there are those who notice there may be flaws in this game. Give your perspective. Not some 9th grade annotation level post like this eaxmple.


Example:



It's post like this which disturbs me. It's post like this which aggravates others. Aggravates others including me. And the guy who posted this underneath my discussion. I apologize for my reply.

[Caine]

Welcome to the economy.

It works like this in real life aswell; the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Nothing we can do about it.

Also your point wasn't valid half the time.

I fail to understand.

[ItsKyan]

not our fault they arent rich, if they arent smart enough to farm, then dont play

[ScammePlse]

Welcome to the economy.

It works like this in real life aswell; the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Nothing we can do about it.

Also your point wasn't valid half the time.

I fail to understand.

I need to find a game that improvised shet that their player based had doubts on but actually made the game improve. Kinda fail the "And.. you get the point" part of my post.

So yea its no wonder you fail to understand that's mb

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not our fault they arent rich, if they arent smart enough to farm, then dont play

But I-I- I farm, and I'm not enough rich.

[UkyoKuonji]

not our fault they arent rich, if they arent smart enough to farm, then dont play

The thing is farming is the lowest profitable ways to earn wl. You have to be rich in order to be rich. eg. Ssp/rsp/surg vend/BFG you have to start from very high amount of budget

[tatertots]

Keep in mind that majority of those who are rich now started in the same place that those you are advocating for have

[ScammePlse]

The thing is farming is the lowest profitable ways to earn wl. You have to be rich in order to be rich. eg. Ssp/rsp/surg vend/BFG you have to start from very high amount of budget

Exactly GooD Damn point.

In order to BE RICH YOU GOTTA BE RICH. That's the game. You see exactly my point.

[UkyoKuonji]

Keep in mind that majority of those who are rich now started in the same place that those you are advocating for have

And some of them doing illegal things or just spent lots of money on gt.

[ScammePlse]

Keep in mind that majority of those who are rich now started in the same place that those you are advocating for have

But nowadays methods are different in becoming rich...

And some of them doing illegal things or just spent lots of money on gt.

YES YES…

For me to be rich, I gotta sell my ghc. And when I sell my ghc, I'm back to being rich again.

Now, people do illegal things because this entire economy is practically asking for it. Like who wishes to mass or expend so much time for a couple of dls when you can do a single game of casino and get a big win.

And because of these methods more people play casino, and so what about the noobs who don't know casinos or have a reason to expend so much time for a couple of dls. They would just stay poor and ask for donations.

[R4Z]

Ok buy ghc 2wls.
Im poor.

[ScammePlse]

Ok buy ghc 2wls.
Im poor.

ʜ̶̷̲̅ᴀ̶̷̲̅ʜ̶̷̲̅ᴀ̶̷̲̅ u ̶̷̲̅ɴ̶̷̲̅ᴏ̶̷̲̅ᴏ̶̷̲̅ʙ̶̷̲̅

[DeLixx]

Like the people in buyghc, I see lvl 43 selling something in the range of 50 dls or so

Why are you comparing with extremes?
Also, would you consider 50dls "rich"?

But nowadays methods are different in becoming rich...

No they're not that different.
The best ways at profiting are still calculated profits through creative investements and projects.
If you compare someone who'll blindly open a ssp shop because many others are doing it so it must be profitable while only relying on cheap prices and sbs (undefined cost) to attract customers and having no clue how to run a shop, hoping for the big bucks (abbreaviate that and you'll have a good chunk of gts poorer players) with someone that doesn't act purely on impulse and spends time reflecting and predictively comparing options then you're going to have a bad time.

But nowadays methods are different in becoming rich...
YES YES…

For me to be rich, I gotta sell my ghc. And when I sell my ghc, I'm back to being rich again.

Now, people do illegal things because this entire economy is practically asking for it. Like who wishes to mass or expend so much time for a couple of dls when you can do a single game of casino and get a big win.

And because of these methods more people play casino, and so what about the noobs who don't know casinos or have a reason to expend so much time for a couple of dls. They would just stay poor and ask for donations.

I honestly doubt any of the currently active wealthiest players earned substantial portions of their wealth by participanting in casinos.
This sounds very delusional.

I also don't think that making wls continously and unconditionally easier for everyone to obtain is in any way a smart idea as it would just increase inflation.

People do illegal things because there's no noteworthy regulation enforcement or fun and (obvious) rewarding activities.
The soon-to-be game guardians might help with shady activities, but the very homogene farming environment is admittedly quite a problem.

It's incredible how useful items are being denied from being created due to their "overpowerness"

You know surprising enough the only damn items that given people who are new, a potential high profit were the rayman fist and magplants. Like whoever was during the time when those items were released, they just went from poverty level to probably top 1% now

Everyone still has the opportunity to purchase those "overpowered" items within a somewhat reasonable period of time.
I've met (very few) people that reached 40-50dl net worth after a few months through hard work on a fresh account asking for advice while I get asked many times daily for donations - regularly even trying to make me feel guilty about them being scammed often, celebrating their third birthday this year, or being unable to achieve their "dream set".
Top 1% is top 1% for a reason.

Comparing with magplants and rayman fist is also not exactly fair, as those were incredibly rare occasions.
More recent "high profit opportunities" would be anything related to winter fest or recent updates like the surgery one which caused wotd trophies to explode and people to grind bobs.
It's just that the majority of people naturally notice those only after the train has already left the station.

[HugeLock]

*Edited the whole thing a bit*

Even after all the decrease in farmable prices, bait prices, and item prices for more easy access for newbies to earn world locks. And also the increase in world locks donated, world locks scammed, vend scams, casinos, ssp worlds and rsp worlds for others to illegally/legally gain world locks themselves...

Their still so poor! (I wanna tear my hair out)

Like the people in buyghc, I see lvl 43 selling something in the range of 50 dls or so and nobody would even wish to buy his item because they either are selling something else or simply not able to afford it. (And don't explain this, if you got an idea of what its like then keep it to yourself)

What I'm trying to request is to somehow raise the economy to a range where even newbies can eventually catch up to as many wls as others have at a decent pace. And afford the stuff that others can to keep up their progression.

You know surprising enough the only damn items that given people who are new, a potential high profit were the rayman fist and magplants. Like whoever was during the time when those items were released, they just went from poverty level to probably top 1% now

It's incredible how useful items are being denied from being created due to their "overpowerness". Well, I probably shouldn't quote that word but considering this game and how players' reactions to 3 block punches is like "OMG ACTUALLY INSANE! MINDBLOWING! And collecting block/seed machine IS ACTUALLY NERF NERF NERF!!! they would say.

But to add on, its also because of players' worried expectations of this game in general and that they think it should be fair and balanced, even though the whole damn economy is already unbalanced, and well... having rich people being richer and richer and poor being poorer and poorer isn't either what I would call fair too.

*Edit* Someone just mention something and it hit me that growtopia is now rarely someone growing from poor to rich. That's the old economy. Now it's if you wanna be rich you actually have to start rich. If someone plans on massing, question yourself. Do you think you got the damn determination that last, to mass for weeks, months, years...

Creating useful items might (Eh, you never know ) break the economy, but for some reason, I see it as a way to break through poverty, so then there's more people rich.

And more people rich = more dls

And more dls = Oh look! Someone is selling a ghc, please if you got the money check it out, he's quite desperate but don't take him for granted

https://www.growtopiagame.com/forums...-dls-can-lower



P.S. My bum bum hurts from sitting in buyghc for 5 hrs which is the supposed trade world to trade GHC and yet THERE'S NO BUYERS AND I WANNA CRY but everyone is able to sell everything else but me. *������, unfortunately I inserted a cry emoji from another website which got denied and so I'm left without tears*

I hope I don't get an infraction for this.

[Corrects]

Gems are harder to obtain last time, with BFGs and other methods, it's definitely much easier now.

In my opinion, getting richer was harder before. It is so much easier now

[Stardust1998]

I hope I don't get an infraction for this.

I aga reeeeeeeee with that comrade

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Gems are harder to obtain last time, with BFGs and other methods, it's definitely much easier now.

In my opinion, getting richer was harder before. It is so much easier now

Also I 100% agree with this. It may not make you Jamew7 rich but you can still get paid ez money