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  • About people that are very negative about suggestions in the Suggestions Sub-forum...

    Stop...

    The only reason why people are suggesting Items/Mechanics/Changes is that they noticed something that isn't right and should be fixed or needs to be added for whatever reason it is.

    I suggested one about reputation systems, these are important and isn't supposed to be abused because of, one a lower reputation means people will more likely to ignore you and two, there are many ways to avoid it from being abused.

    There is not a single bad suggestion because it is only a suggestion and the devs know better.
    Plus most suggestions I saw were actually good but risky, good because it can stop scammers, CSN, auto-farmers, etc. Risky because it will change the meta or prices.

    And those "bad" suggestions you said? for me, they aren't bad because those suggestions aims for the good of GT and not for the bad.
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    chjöp chjöp
    Unfortunately, you have to deal with it. If people notice that it can crash the economy, they wont like it. The economy is bad enough as it is.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Crunchyy View Post
      chjöp chjöp
      Unfortunately, you have to deal with it. If people notice that it can crash the economy, they wont like it. The economy is bad enough as it is.
      As an oldie, I get what their point is but economy right now is just secondary, the main point of these suggestions is that people are losing interest in the game and a way to fix it is to rework on the game and mechanics, scams and cheaters are everywhere, and a good and simple way is the Rep system I suggested as it can be added into the game with the anti-cheat system, just rework it and voila. With that, you can ignore people that have low reps and avoid getting scammed.

      With the rebalances, those can be secondary because a game's economy will always change and no matter what you do it will eventually be useless at some point, so just have fun with it.
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      • #4
        Criticisms aren’t something bad. We criticise your point since we did not think that idea was valid or well-suited for Growtopia. I have mentioned my points clearly on your thread and will still continue adding more. We see huge flaws in it and it’s only right to point it out, instead of blindly following and not knowing what’s going on. WE ALL want Growtopia to fully blossom and reach it’s fullest potential. Criticisms aren’t something bad. You’re being quite negative here and it contradicts this thread.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Pokekid123 View Post
          Criticisms aren’t something bad. We criticise your point since we did not think that idea was valid or well-suited for Growtopia. I have mentioned my points clearly on your thread and will still continue adding more. We see huge flaws in it and it’s only right to point it out, instead of blindly following and not knowing what’s going on. WE ALL want Growtopia to fully blossom and reach it’s fullest potential. Criticisms aren’t something bad. You’re being quite negative here and it contradicts this thread.
          You criticize, others just say (including me sorry lol) "bad suggestion -1"
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          • #6
            Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Some may not be as constructive as others, and some may not be rational. People can build onto suggestions and give their view on the suggestion, etc.

            The players can know best too as well since it is the game that they are playing, that's why the developers request feedback on everything. Bad suggestions can be determined on the weighing of pros vs cons.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Pokekid123 View Post
              Criticisms aren’t something bad. We criticise your point since we did not think that idea was valid or well-suited for Growtopia. I have mentioned my points clearly on your thread and will still continue adding more. We see huge flaws in it and it’s only right to point it out, instead of blindly following and not knowing what’s going on. WE ALL want Growtopia to fully blossom and reach it’s fullest potential. Criticisms aren’t something bad. You’re being quite negative here and it contradicts this thread.
              Criticisms are fine, the problem is pointing out every single flaw on a suggestion that a player suggested even if the player made reasonable ways on how to prevent it from being abused or it being not fit for GT.

              It's just really insulting because it's still an idea for a feature and not reality, only criticize when it is approved and then let the Devs will work it out.

              Plus IDK why you don't get the potential of having a rep system, It is useful for mods and players and will make players try to be nicer towards others, if they abuse it then mods can find them and ban them easily...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sombodi
                Criticisms are fine, the problem is pointing out every single flaw on a suggestion that a player suggested even if the player made reasonable ways on how to prevent it from being abused or it being not fit for GT.
                Like I've said, you're contradicting your point again. Pointing out every single flaw is criticism.

                Originally posted by Sombodi
                It's just really insulting because it's still an idea for a feature and not reality, only criticize when it is approved and then let the Devs will work it out.
                Why only criticize it when it's approved? Narcissistic?

                Originally posted by Sombodi
                Plus IDK why you don't get the potential of having a rep system, It is useful for mods and players and will make players try to be nicer towards others, if they abuse it then mods can find them and ban them easily...
                I just don't see potential in it. As Techy commented, everyone has rights to share their opinions on the matter. In my humble opinion, it is not useful for either party.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sombodi View Post
                  And those "bad" suggestions you said? for me, they aren't bad because those suggestions aims for the good of GT and not for the bad.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sombodi View Post
                    There is not a single bad suggestion
                    Like "remove the drop button"? I mean, I understand why he suggested it, it's just a terrible solution for the problem.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by m456 View Post
                      Like "remove the drop button"? I mean, I understand why he suggested it, it's just a terrible solution for the problem.
                      Yeah, it is terrible but its one of the most effective ways to stop the scammers and if there are other solutions then the second best is don't let guest players drop in a world locked world which I have already mentioned before.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sombodi View Post
                        wdym?....
                        I've seen people in the past suggest a provider that would literally give you free WLs/DLs. If that's not a bad suggestion, then you must truly have a way of justifying everything.
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                        • #13
                          So you're telling me that I should be positive about someone who asks to make "legal casinos" or even "remove the drop button because "

                          Hell yea I'm definitely doing this
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                          • #14
                            It doesn't matter whether we 'approve' their ideas and suggestions or not, it all depends on the decision-making of developers (a.k.a. Ubisoft in this case?).
                            Whether a suggestion is efficient/usable or not depends on them.

                            I'm aware of people who disagree with those suggestions, but it wouldn't hurt to just ignore them instead.
                            Yet, freedom of speech exists, and if they want to comment on something, let them do so. It's none of our concern.

                            Honestly speaking, I don't even see the point of this thread.
                            Do you actually think voicing out your opinion here would change other people's actions? I think not.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Techy View Post
                              Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Some may not be as constructive as others, and some may not be rational. People can build onto suggestions and give their view on the suggestion, etc.

                              The players can know best too as well since it is the game that they are playing, that's why the developers request feedback on everything. Bad suggestions can be determined on the weighing of pros vs cons.
                              Originally posted by Prolly View Post
                              It doesn't matter whether we 'approve' their ideas and suggestions or not, it all depends on the decision-making of developers (a.k.a. Ubisoft in this case?).
                              Whether a suggestion is efficient/usable or not depends on them.

                              I'm aware of people who disagree with those suggestions, but it wouldn't hurt to just ignore them instead.
                              Yet, freedom of speech exists, and if they want to comment on something, let them do so. It's none of our concern.

                              Honestly speaking, I don't even see the point of this thread.
                              Do you actually think voicing out your opinion here would change other people's actions? I think not.
                              ^^^^^

                              Also, if I am being totally honest, we do not need a reputation system. A lot of the people who are in the sub-forum discussing suggestions generally have more than enough reason themselves to counter the suggestion. In this case especially, I can understand why people are arguing against the suggestion - it can be easily abused, provides no help to moderators as they base their punishments on reports, and can cause people to be improperly represented. Think of it from both perspectives actually, if somebody had a great rating, they can easily trick players into giving them their items because they have a "good rating". Similarly, somebody with a poor rating can still scam people or in fact be treated differently by players with the assumption that they are a bad person. I would also say that the last thing the devs want for this game is for people to be "rated". This is all assuming players even check ratings, and I can imagine right now with this game's demographic it would likely be misunderstood or just ignored as a whole. Either way, Growtopia does not have the community for a reputation system.
                              So don't take it personally, but before making a big thread feeling attacked, consider it from multiple sides, because I would definitely say this would make the game worse as a whole. The best suggestions come from people who consider every dimension of the idea they're proposing.

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