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  • #31
    Originally posted by HugeLock View Post
    1 surgery on a train-e is around 1Wl, so 12000 surgeries is still 120 dls..
    Well you get a ton of tools as prizes, such as stitches... Also you get a lot of role drops like electrical power cubes in batches of 5. Trust me, 12600 surgeries on train-es would cost you like 18dls after you sell everything, might even cost less (as long as your surgeon role is properly levelled up)
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    • #32
      Originally posted by DeLixx View Post
      My suggestion and main argument can be found in the first post.
      There I say, that doing surgeries through trainees results in thimbamabobs being dumped massively.
      And to counter that, doing surgeries with trainees should not give caducei.
      No drop rate change, no nothing.
      Also, yes, it is very much the devs job to try and keep the market as stable and fair as possible.
      Yes, it's their job to keep the market stable. A stable market has items that go up or down in value. It is also their job to make sure the market is fair. How is lowering the drop rate for thingamabobs fair? If anything that would make it unfair for players with fewer amount of world locks. Your argument doesn't make any sense. I agree that the train-es have caused an increased amount of thingamabobs in the game, resulting in the price drop of the item. But how is that a problem?
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      • #33
        Train es are like 4/wl now so its prob not profitable and its gonna be q boring doing 12 800 surgeries on traines
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        • #34
          Originally posted by HugeLock View Post
          1 surgery on a train-e is around 1Wl, so 12000 surgeries is still 120 dls..
          Surgery cost only train e price and some tools will be lost, but same time some tools become more. So no, surg wont cost 1wl for sure. I tested make 100 surgs with train e and most of tools went over 200 during the surgs while i had 200 each tool when i started this test. So i didn't lose much tools.

          Here. I had 200 each tools when i started and after 100 train e i had these:

          152 aneste
          196 antibio
          152 scalpel
          140 stit
          249 spong
          206 lab
          230 trans
          206 pins
          230 clamp
          179 ultra
          191 splint
          207 def
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          • #35
            Originally posted by QueenChloe View Post
            Surgery cost only train e price and some tools will be lost, but same time some tools become more. So no, surg wont cost 1wl for sure. I tested make 100 surgs with train e and most of tools went over 200 during the surgs while i had 200 each tool when i started this test. So i didn't lose much tools.

            Here. I had 200 each tools when i started and after 100 train e i had these:

            152 aneste
            196 antibio
            152 scalpel
            140 stit
            249 spong
            206 lab
            230 trans
            206 pins
            230 clamp
            179 ultra
            191 splint
            207 def
            Why do i find this funny that comparing this to real life is catastrophic. How do you start off with 200 and end up with 249
            Oh and i know its called profit
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            • #36
              I, for one, welcome the prospect of affordable thingamabobs.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by DynPlaysGT View Post
                I, for one, welcome the prospect of affordable thingamabobs.
                Do you really want cheap legendaries though?
                Or do you perhaps want the exlusivity legendaries bring with them? You could just buy smog or any handheld dragon and be done with it, but youre aiming for the dragon.
                There's thousands of growtopians with a net worth of around 100dl and if the thingamabob continues to drop itll just be a matter of time before the legendary dragon will be as rare as zeus.

                Why should end game content that many have grinded thousands of hours for suddenly be available to the lazy masses? Something that previously took a year now becomes a weekly matter.
                Selfmade absolvents of legendary quests - such as myself - are entitled to at least that much market stability.
                Theres also people that dont like the limited quantity of phoenix wings, but in truth they just want the legendary wings as cheap as possible - preferably free.

                There's also the matter of surgeries themselves:
                Why should anyone apart from doing quests even do classical surgeries when the 1/12600 drop is practically worthless and not worth the time investement?
                Theres a single and very good reason why the surgery pack is many times more popular than eg. the galactic tools pack: The chance of obtaining a super rare thingamabob.

                Not to mention that train-es were created as a tool of practice, explicitely without rare rewards.
                Saying that grinding train-es is hard is pure hypocracy because itd have to compare 1:1 with the surg-e where its blatant that its not!
                Grinding train-es is an exploit!

                Tldr: theres more to it than just bobs being cheap or expensive

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                • #38
                  henlo

                  "ah ah thingamabob ah"

                  yes this is dumb they should make it so train-e's don't give caducei

                  bobs should stay where they are and train-e's should be nerfed or something I don't know but like can we stop with this pointless arguing.

                  thingamabobs should not be cheap. I don't like the idea of seeing items that are supposed to be expensive become widespread, (they're called legendaries for a reason). I'd love to have one, but I'd rather it stay where it is. Also "oh its a 36 hour grind blah blah"

                  not like you have to do them all in one day bruh

                  tldr

                  just nerf train-e
                  legendaries should still be expensive because they should be exclusive.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by DeLixx View Post
                    You literally just ignored everything I said to repeat yourself.
                    Kind of proves my point
                    Actually your argument is invalid,

                    You can't just say "your argument is invalid" and totally disregard someone's opinion.
                    The growtopian put in the effort, therefore they get the thingamabob.
                    In compensation you have no chance of getting a thingambob dropped as a reward from a trainee. The devs were well aware of this when they implemented them to the game, and they made them balanced.

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                    • #40
                      so you're not gonna acknowledge the cost it take to reach lv6 surgeon and how much time it takes to surg 12600 train es?
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Liquify View Post
                        so you're not gonna acknowledge the cost it take to reach lv6 surgeon
                        Obviously not.
                        The cost and time for reaching lvl 6 surgery bonus are completely individual and independent of this.
                        Not to mention how its a permanent passive bonus and can still be used with the classical surgeries.
                        People that rushed the surgeon role to participate in this exploit dont really deserve compensation either as theres nothing to compensate.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by jigjig420 View Post
                          lol what is this thread
                          lol what is this comment

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                          • #43
                            There's like five people selling their bobs in buyghc, the main bulletin also has a lot of people trying to sell their bobs, one different person every hour or so sbs to sell their bob and people can be seen in different discord servers trying to sell their bobs.
                            This should not be ignored!!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by DeLixx View Post
                              Do you really want cheap legendaries though?
                              Or do you perhaps want the exlusivity legendaries bring with them? You could just buy smog or any handheld dragon and be done with it, but youre aiming for the dragon.
                              There's thousands of growtopians with a net worth of around 100dl and if the thingamabob continues to drop itll just be a matter of time before the legendary dragon will be as rare as zeus.

                              Why should end game content that many have grinded thousands of hours for suddenly be available to the lazy masses? Something that previously took a year now becomes a weekly matter.
                              Selfmade absolvents of legendary quests - such as myself - are entitled to at least that much market stability.
                              Theres also people that dont like the limited quantity of phoenix wings, but in truth they just want the legendary wings as cheap as possible - preferably free.

                              There's also the matter of surgeries themselves:
                              Why should anyone apart from doing quests even do classical surgeries when the 1/12600 drop is practically worthless and not worth the time investement?
                              Theres a single and very good reason why the surgery pack is many times more popular than eg. the galactic tools pack: The chance of obtaining a super rare thingamabob.

                              Not to mention that train-es were created as a tool of practice, explicitely without rare rewards.
                              Saying that grinding train-es is hard is pure hypocracy because itd have to compare 1:1 with the surg-e where its blatant that its not!
                              Grinding train-es is an exploit!

                              Tldr: theres more to it than just bobs being cheap or expensive
                              It’s destined that one day legendary dragon at least will be as cheap as the Zeus. Hell, Zeus used to be the ”legendary dragon” of its time and now it’s Super common.

                              It has never been expensive for ages. Ever since devil wings turned to dirt compared to golden items and things like the growie skyrocketed in price the dragon has died.

                              Issue with the thingamabobs is the legend bot is gonna be slaughtered too if the price continues dropping. Dragon is dead, but they need to save the bot while they can.
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                              • #45
                                Yeah, god forbid their price ever drops and slightly poorer players get a chance to own legendary items /s

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