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  • #31
    Originally posted by Lokean View Post
    Vpn exists

    Even casino hosts can make multiple accounts, I think it's easy to bypass (๑•﹏•)
    Then the issue is not about the Sell and Goto names if you insist about vpn.

    They usually use it to evade ban. Ofc they can use vpn to make goto or sell names but how many goto and sell account ur going to use simultaneously?

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    Originally posted by MiMelody View Post
    Btw, there is no reason for us to eliminate Active AFK user for the sake of "server stabilities". Every player in a game has right to play in a way the game has to offer. Growtopia allows a user to own multiple accounts, does mean each individual account inherit every single rights and follow the same rules. That is why when your main account gets ban, your alt account will also suffer the same punishment.

    We do not have the right to eliminate these idling accounts.
    The only way Growtopia has a reason to eliminate these account is by updating in-game rules, which is a serious task.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by MiMelody View Post
      Btw, there is no reason for us to eliminate Active AFK user for the sake of "server stabilities". Every player in a game has right to play in a way the game has to offer. Growtopia allows a user to own multiple accounts, does mean each individual account inherit every single rights and follow the same rules. That is why when your main account gets ban, your alt account will also suffer the same punishment.

      We do not have the right to eliminate these idling accounts.
      The only way Growtopia has a reason to eliminate these account is by updating in-game rules, which is a serious task.
      1) Idling/alternative accounts are different from afk promoting bots/accounts.

      This one is an example: https://youtu.be/0_XGQg35LhY

      2) We are allowed to have multiple accounts but having 55+ accounts while using some app cloner or the thing they call gabb are obviously illegal. Most of these repetitive named accounts are ran by these type of software.

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      3) There's a reason why the developers limits the gt window for pc clients to 1 window per device.

      4) yes, they need to update the rules.
      Last edited by Lokean; 07-24-2020, 01:30 PM.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Lokean View Post
        1) Idling/alternative accounts are different from afk promoting bots/accounts.

        This one is an example: https://youtu.be/0_XGQg35LhY

        2) We are allowed to have multiple accounts but having 55+ accounts while using some app cloner or the thing they call gabb are obviously illegal. Most of these repetitive named accounts are ran by these type of software.

        (Photos are from yt)
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        3) There's reason why the developers limits the gt window for pc clients to 1 window per device.

        4) yes, they need to update the rules.
        i agree with this

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Epalogs View Post
          Then the issue is not about the Sell and Goto names if you insist about vpn.

          They usually use it to evade ban. Ofc they can use vpn to make goto or sell names but how many goto and sell account ur going to use simultaneously?
          1) Yes, the issue isn't about the "sell" and "goto" names. I just took them as an example. (Please read the thread title)

          2) I'm not insisting to ban these accounts, it's just a suggestion to reduce the instabilities we are experiencing. The servers can't handle the huge amount of online players, and these non-players/afk accounts that promotes vends worlds, casinos, games, etc are contributing to the issue.

          3) Ban evasion is obviously illegal. Csn hosts tends to use the vpn technique to get back to the game. (I personally have seen some lists of these teams/links. Most of them are banned but they can easily make another acc in a minute)

          3.1) How do I know that they can easily go back and make a new one? The answer is: I anonymously joined in some of their social media groups to keep in track on their links and activities. I've been actively listing their casino worlds/links, and I also directly send those to the authority. (Specifically someone from the growtopia team)

          4) "how many goto and sell account ur going to use simultaneously?" I don't know. I'm not using those software, I have zero knowledge regarding the limit they have.
          Last edited by Lokean; 07-24-2020, 01:35 PM.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Lokean View Post
            1) Idling/alternative accounts are different from afk promoting bots/accounts.

            This one is an example: https://youtu.be/0_XGQg35LhY

            2) We are allowed to have multiple accounts but having 55+ accounts while using some app cloner or the thing they call gabb are obviously illegal. Most of these repetitive named accounts are ran by these type of software.

            (Photos are from yt)
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            3) There's reason why the developers limits the gt window for pc clients to 1 window per device.

            4) yes, they need to update the rules.
            1. I do not mention bots are the same as Active AFK user. This number 1 statement of yours is out of context.
            2. I do not mention the use of App Cloner or some sort for the creation of alt account. Do not assume every alt account are made with these technique. I myself own 9 alt accounts out of 8 devices i ever own(another one is created when i switch the motherboard of my pc, which technically became a new device).
            3. This statement doesn't show any reply to my argument or specific part of it.
            4.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by MiMelody View Post
              1. I do not mention bots are the same as Active AFK user. This number 1 statement of yours is out of context.
              2. I do not mention the use of App Cloner or some sort for the creation of alt account. Do not assume every alt account are made with these technique. I myself own 9 alt accounts out of 8 devices i ever own(another one is created when i switch the motherboard of my pc, which technically became a new device).
              3. This statement doesn't show any reply to my argument or specific part of it.
              4.
              1) You just mentioned that "there is no reason for us to eliminate Active AFK user" which I have nothing against with. My first statement was for addressing the whole issue we got here.

              2) A normal player won't be able to pull out 10+ accounts to be online at the same time. I'm also not assuming, I'm just stating facts. You can easily search for youtube tutorials on how to open multiple windows for this game.

              3) I'm just stating the contradicting parts from your statement. Example: multiple accounts and alts.

              4) You also mentioned that "Every player in a game has right to play in a way the game has to offer." That's the reason why I pointed out the softwares and the "1 window limit per device"
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              • #37
                Just a bump for the update
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                • #38
                  why tf are people mad at removing spam bots or afk bots? isn't it supposed to be a good thing? it could help make the server more stable and not make it always lag but the bad thing about it is they have to make some new rules and remove all the bots which could cost alot of time.


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                  • #39
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Lokean View Post
                      The inability to make repetitive/similar usernames for unregistered accounts will lessen the efficiency and/or the amount of advertising bots.

                      ++A limitation for the maximum of 3-5 online accounts per IP might also work. (Just another suggestion)

                      ++Prevent the players from making worlds with words such as "csn" "casino" "min" "bet"
                      Repetitive/similar usernames should still be allowed. It may be a pain to the spammers but they will ultimately just make more accounts.

                      --Considering that some CSNs earn real money from getting and selling dls, I'm quite certain they can afford a VPN. This would lessen the amount of people hosting CSN just for wls and not selling them though.

                      --No. They will always find a work-around. Just like removing casino wheels. They will probably just name them "cosino" or something similar with one letter changed. This would make everything painful for other players. Sure, the idea may sound good at first but then you realize that those can result in worlds such as BuyMine and BuyBetty being nuked for containing blacklisted words. I mean casino wheel is already an item so blacklisting it would be a huge loss for the owner. Buy+ worlds aren't the only ones that would be affected by this. Imagine that your main world was something fancy like "Mineral".. boom it's gone.

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                      • #41
                        Just add a human verification captcha, problem solved
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                        • #42
                          a bump for wenor's gui
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                          • #43
                            I already commented this on Instagram but here are my thoughts and ideas: I suggest Growtopia having a system that if a player chats/types the same thing, let's say atleast 5 times or more, in a span of a minute or even more, the system automatically detects that this is a spam. This only applies if the player types the WHOLE EXACT STATEMENT again and again.

                            That means it doesn't apply to players if they say, for example,
                            1st chat: Hi
                            2nd chat: Hi!
                            3rd chat: Hi?

                            It doesn't apply because the player didn't type anything that has been repeated as a whole.

                            But.... If the system detects that a player repeatedly chatting the same thing over and over again (just like spammers do), for example:

                            1st chat: SELL DIRT, GO TO SELLDIRT123.
                            2nd chat: SELL DIRT, GO TO SELLDIRT123.
                            3rd chat: SELL DIRT, GO TO SELLDIRT123.

                            The system can then confirm that this is an intended spam.
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