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  • WL Inflation & Buy+ Auctions

    As you all know (hopefully), buy+ worlds are crazy expensive now as everyone has a net worth of at least 10+bgls, I'm not complaining about that as I, myself, have already profited 40+bgls this year. My issue regarding wl inflation has become so clear as it has gotten very hard to find a buy+ for the budget of 10-40bgls.

    First of all, I would like Ubisoft to add a bot (similar to Locke) that would auction off buy+ with either perma-banned owners, or owners that have quitted long ago and are not coming back (3+years...) Some of you might argue that it's "ethical", however, as of now, there are at least 10 people with 30+bgls pure in their inventory. If Ubisoft decided to somehow add this auction, it would help with wl inflation. But how:

    By auctioning off the buy+ worlds, this would happen:

    1. BGLS would go to the mod/bot, meaning that they'd cease to exist. In other words, the mod/bot would have those bgls and they'd basically be unusable.
    2. Around 20+ buy+ worth 30+bgls are currently owned by either perma-banned owners/owner who quitted, this means that those worlds can now be opened.

    An example of why holding too many bgls is bad for the economy:

    Let's say I have 30 pure bgls, and I decide to hoard 50 rlocks, what would happen to the rlock prices? Note that this is only 1 person doing this. Imagine if 10 others do this and start either hoarding for investment, or opening 20+bfg worlds (think of farmable prices in this case).

    Real Examples:

    1. I had bgls that I did not know what to do with, so I decided to buy 60 rlocks with my friend, and price went up by at least 15 dls (this was a few months ago).

    2. Before even JameW7 came up with hoarding g scans, I had 80 already which I bought for 1/100-200 and I later sold 1/550.

    3. I hoarded 11 Golden Angels, I bought each 1/100-120 and sold 1/200dls. Hence, the increase in GA price.

    4. --> Working on it...

    Yes, I used myself as a real example. It's not just Jamew7 or Benbarrage who do those types of things, there are at least 100 others who do this.

    NOTE: I'm fully aware that I'm posting this in the update discussion as this is a major concern regarding wl inflation. If you don't believe me, just look at the sbs, I see at least 10+ sbs of people buying buy+ worth 5-30bgls daily (could be the same people/could be different).


    Edit: Adding a new legendary item, or updated locke will NOT solve this. It has become crystal clear how easy it is to earn wls (autofarmers and csn players are constantly releasing wls into the economy. At this point, it might even be impossible even with this implementation.

    The new items that can be bought with $ from the store are SUPER stupid. Imagine spending $15 to earn dls that might have taken someone else an entire year to earn. Please Ubisoft think rationally before adding an item to growtopia. Yes, they're quite cool, and yes, I know you want to make money off the game, but don't do it in such a way that it would hurt Growtopia, think of the future.

    To add on, I think Ubisoft should stop adding new items, and new features until this can be solved. Wls value is decreasing exponentially. There are numerous ways of solving this and please before you add something that can have an impact on the game, ask your community. Make polls/take feedback. I have already suggested an in-game poll since not everyone who plays growtopia is on the forums.

    If you solve this issue, perhaps you can earn more money from the game. As wls value increase, gems value also increases, and thus, people will more likely buy gems from the store. Why not make a forum post + in game poll and have top ideas that would help bring back wl value? For example, you can rework locke, you can have "biggest spender of the year feature", you can hire a csn/autofarmer/dls buyer report team, you can sell more items from the store for wls, instead of gems like maybe add new boxes (kind of like gambling, but legal gambling and with wls). There are wayyyy too many ideas you can come up with, and yet, you're doing nothing.
    Last edited by Law_Growtopia; 12-24-2020, 10:12 PM.
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  • #2
    I do like the auction idea, however not all perma bans are final meaning it may be a "Security Concern" or banned falsely as well as the possibility that the owners who "quit" may come back. Possibly they could add a system as such but with only people who are perma banned and can not come back what so ever (meaning they have already contacted support).

    This would take a lot of work to add and I doubt they would but if everything set up correctly I do find this ethical.
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    • #3
      reducing inflation is not a good basis for auctioning off worlds. it will be unfair to the others who purchase the BUY+(S) worlds..

      there is always option open for people to buy items in BUY+(S), SELL+ etc... not mentioning other trading worlds...

      the fact that illegal activities result in banning of some players in itself already is a WL sink.. it removes illegally owned wls and items out of the system.

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      • #4
        You are concern about people hoarding items but you are also doing the same? ironic isn't it? Bans have time duration depending on the case they got banned for and what if lets say you are the owner of the world would you happy to know that you lost all your worlds just because you have been inactive for a few years? guess not.
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        • #5
          I agree abt the point on WL inflation, since the amount of wls in this game is forever gonna increase (with exceptions to locke). But there are other ways to solve this.

          I suggest creating new NPCs which "eat up" locks. Somewhat similar to locke.

          OR

          Add new items to be bought from locke. E.g. Unobtainable Growmojis. I know people will complain about the destabilising of prices for the growmojis, but its a small secrifice to stabilise the economy. Besides, growmojis intended use is for them to be consumed and used. Even if more are introduced into the game, the only impact is that the prices will drop and more people will have the growmojis.
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          • #6
            +you cant just ask developers to steal the banned or quitted peoples buy+ lol

            i can tell you what needs to be done most of these buy+ owners that pop up from nowhere and probably bought those dls or got it from an illegal way there is tons of dls buyers casino hosters that buy buy+ and get no punishment even if they get they can easily link the world and continue
            i would say gt staff do a good background check to every rich player including you ofc

            also we need the new buy+ rules and regulations buy+ worlds are too op right now you can do anything with it if they nerf it and it actually earns what it should earn then it wouldn't be 40bgls again

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Komando View Post
              +you cant just ask developers to steal the banned or quitted peoples buy+ lol

              i can tell you what needs to be done most of these buy+ owners that pop up from nowhere and probably bought those dls or got it from an illegal way there is tons of dls buyers casino hosters that buy buy+ and get no punishment even if they get they can easily link the world and continue
              i would say gt staff do a good background check to every rich player including you ofc

              also we need the new buy+ rules and regulations buy+ worlds are too op right now you can do anything with it if they nerf it and it actually earns what it should earn then it wouldn't be 40bgls again
              1. My account has already been investigated this year, you don't have to worry about me. If I were you I'd worry about myself.

              2. They're not stealing them lmao, some worlds have been left for over 4 years.

              3. The muted worlds you're talking about do not go for much, it's mostly worlds with high honors that are exceeding the price limit. The reason why honored buy+ are getting more and more expensive is cause it's very easy to earn bgls rn and only around 20-30 decent worlds are available.

              In other words, I'm not talking about worlds that generate 2-3dls/daily, I'm talking about those generating 5-10dls/daily (clean)
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fallen1 View Post
                I agree abt the point on WL inflation, since the amount of wls in this game is forever gonna increase (with exceptions to locke). But there are other ways to solve this.

                I suggest creating new NPCs which "eat up" locks. Somewhat similar to locke.

                OR

                Add new items to be bought from locke. E.g. Unobtainable Growmojis. I know people will complain about the destabilising of prices for the growmojis, but its a small secrifice to stabilise the economy. Besides, growmojis intended use is for them to be consumed and used. Even if more are introduced into the game, the only impact is that the prices will drop and more people will have the growmojis.
                Growmojis/l items/any untradable item isn't enough to stabilize the economy.
                Last edited by Law_Growtopia; 11-27-2020, 06:29 AM.
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                • Komando
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                  lol growmojis doesn't do anything

              • #9
                Originally posted by Law_Growtopia View Post

                1. My account has already been investigated this year, you don't have to worry about me. If I were you I'd worry about myself.

                2. They're not stealing them lmao, some worlds have been left for over 4 years.

                3. The muted worlds you're talking about do not go for much, it's mostly worlds with high honors that are exceeding the price limit. The reason why honored buy+ are getting more and more expensive is cause it's very easy to earn bgls rn and only around 20-30 decent worlds are available.

                In other words, I'm not talking about worlds that generate 2-3dls/daily, I'm talking about those generating 5-10dls/daily (clean)
                1. why would i worry about myself lol i dont think they are doing a good job with that investigation if there is still people like clover and his whole guild out there wilding

                2. those leftover worlds shouldn't be touched most of these worlds isn't muted has great trade area and generally helpful to community unlike your buyportal and buyglowy

                3.muted world i am talking about goes for much example: your worlds honors doesnt equal to profits i seen world with low honors getting tons of profit from vends while some world with honors doesnt really generate any wls from vends because of the item
                Last edited by Komando; 11-26-2020, 09:03 AM.

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                • #10
                  By auctioning off the buy+ worlds, this would happen:

                  1. Make me richer
                  2. Make me richer

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                  • #11
                    solution is new rules and regulations for buy+ worlds any other game like gta online they nerf profit way if it becomes too op i never seen it with growtopia

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Komando View Post

                      1. why would i worry about myself lol i dont think they are doing a good job with that investigation if there is still people like clover and his whole guild out there wilding

                      2. those leftover world shouldn't be touched most of these world isn't muted has great trade area and generally helpful to community unlike your buyportal and buyglowy

                      3.muted world i am talking about goes for much example: your worlds honors doesnt equal to profits i seen world with low honors getting tons of profit from vends while some world with honors doesnt really generate any wls from vends because of the item
                      Do /top and you'll understand. I don't really mind the wl inflation, as my worlds' price has already gone up by at least 20 bgls. I also have bgls to spare so I'm looking into a new investment.

                      I gain nothing out of this, so I really don't know who you're arguing against lol. And yes, my worlds were purposely made that way because I have a good laugh
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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Law_Growtopia View Post

                        Do /top and you'll understand. I don't really mind the wl inflation, as my worlds' price has already gone up by at least 20 bgls. I also have bgls to spare so I'm looking into a new investment.

                        I gain nothing out of this, so I really don't know who you're arguing against lol. And yes, my worlds were purposely made that way because I have a good laugh
                        you maybe gain nothing but we loose i dont want those rare couple of world to owned by a corrupt owner and gets muted abused if you dont mind wl inflation then you dont mind game getting closed as well? i would like to see you when that happens lol you were looking for buy+ around 40bgl but couldn't find anything because wl keep loosing value and you have to buy something asap or you're gonna loose wls everyday

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                        • #14
                          also i do /top very often dont worry i seen the top worlds

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                          • #15
                            I like the idea of making a new bot in GrowTopia that would delete locks and give something in exchange, much like Locke, but not BUY+ worlds. How is it even possible to estimate the price of a BUY+ world? Honestly, I feel like you don't care about inflation in game as much as you care about yourself getting richer, because auctioning off BUY+ worlds would make people like you richer, wouldn't it?

                            You talk about how concerned you are about hoarding items, but you've done it several times. This idea is not a great one and I think you knew that you'd receive a lot of negative backlash when you made this post, and you still posted it because of just that tiny bit of hope that it actually happens and you get richer.

                            I have no hate towards rich people, I just have a hunch that your intentions behind this post aren't well.
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                            • Komando
                              Komando commented
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                              he doesn't care about getting hate. i guess he is trying to be 6ix9ine of the gt lol

                            • Z Y O N I C
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                              Komando, He already is.

                            • Ezekiel GT
                              Ezekiel GT commented
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                              Well in this game it's all about getting richer (for most of the players, it really is). Kinda sad if you think about it.
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