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  • Originally posted by DeLixx View Post
    That's quite hypocritical.
    You're saying that any political discussions and remotely sexual content will be "removed and punished", when this topic is undoubtedly both.
    It is quite frankly impossible to discuss this topic properly while excluding political context.
    To me it seems like you're making an exception for personal satisfaction.

    If your goal is to promote respectful behavior, then do it outside of any political context.
    Restricting it to LGBT will lead it to include associated beliefs, such as "being intolerant towards the intolerant".

    Saying that "anything remotely hateful" will lead to a suspension is bias as it implies to only affect one party.
    If we go by some reactions on this thread I'd be a post-count loving homophobe (sounds like unjustified hate to me, where are the suspensions?), despite staying objective most of the time.
    Indeed.
    I think the same.

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    • Originally posted by Baskerville View Post
      Hi all,

      Again, we want to emphasise that we're not going to close this topic. Acceptance and tolerance of diversity is important to Ubisoft and personally the idea to educate players on this topic is great. I think it's an important community effort, especially knowing the behaviour of the community and looking at some worlds that can be considered toxic. We understand that some of you may dislike certain minorities due to various reasons or are concerned about the world's content in general due to this topic, but this does not give anyone the right to request this world to be removed or this thread to be closed from the start.

      There are a few things to keep in mind though, and this may be reassuring to some of you. Any content, be it in a world or on the forums, that is remotely sexual is going to be removed and punished, we will, like usual, take action, and will not, under any circumstances, make an exception, for no group, be it big or small. Any political discussions, especially on the forums, will not be tolerated.

      So, if it comes to be, that we witness inappropriate chats or content in this world, yes of course we will take action. If it abides by the rules, we will not, it's that simple.

      Going forward, this thread will remain open for any civil comments, suggestions and general feedback. Any kind of spam, anything remotely hateful or off-topic as well as any political discussion after this warning will be punished and will lead to suspension on the forums. You have been warned.

      ~ Baskerville
      I appreciate you taking the time to offer clarity about the topic being discussed. I was reading the topic and was hoping a member of the staff would offer guidance around the situation. That really was my only concern. It also answers all the questions I would have.

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      • Originally posted by Shawn Wilson View Post
        I appreciate you taking the time to offer clarity about the topic being discussed. I was reading the topic and was hoping a member of the staff would offer guidance around the situation. That really was my only concern. It also answers all the questions I would have.
        I still have 1 question and that is all
        Howdy

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        • Originally posted by DJPMcG View Post
          I still have 1 question and that is all
          I think it would be best if the world owner plays a large part in removing any problem players from the world. I think a moderator will punish people for causing problems but they probably won't be able to sit in your world and protect it constantly. Hopefully the world owner gets good admins to help him remove any problem players.

          I would also suggest if people do go to the world to cause problems that the world owner just immediately removes them and not let people stay around to argue.

          Unfortunately these things might happen and it's something you should be ready to handle if you want to embark on that kind of journey. Look at any revolutionary person throughout history and you might see they have been attacked in some form or another.

          Please don't let people stay in the world in arguments hoping a moderator will come just so you can see them punished. That will create more problems for you I promise.

          It's very possible that people on your side can over react and become part of the problem as well. Just do your best to set a good example and don't forget what the purpose of the world is. You didn't make it to fight and argue but to spread awareness about tolerance.

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          • Why does a world about tolerance have to be a tolerance for a specific group. Don't any peaceful minorities deserve the same? Doesn't EVERYONE for that matter?

            Also the argument about casinos, irrelevant. Comparing something to something else that is "worse" isn't proving anything.

            Another point is saying that only straight people are against it, it would seem to me the opposite is true as well. Being a part of that community doesn't make you an expert on the subject or more qualified to make a judgement.

            Most importantly we are discussing a Growtopia world, NOT the community the world is chosen to represent. They're being interchanged at will for convenience and to call people homophobes. The world itself isn't gay, it doesn't make me a homophobe if I disagree with it. I fully support everyone for their decisions and I'm sure you struggle with things that you shouldn't be subject too, but let's be real, this world isn't going to change that.

            Also it's a poor choice of words when people use the word gay for things they don't like and I'm not agreeing with it but at least the word isn't being used literally. An item they don't like obviously doesn't have a sexual orientation. Its like the word retard or lame... Bad choice of words but not used for their literal meaning.

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            • Originally posted by DJPMcG View Post
              The only question I have is what if homophobes join the world? Will only they be punished? And not the world?
              Well, our policies say that if a player uses slurs, etc, they will be punished and not the world. But if you attack back instead of letting it go and report to support, you will also be punished. If you, as an Owner do something in that world, that is considered inappropriate (i.e. sexual for example) then the world will be closed. If visitors do something inappropriate without your knowledge, only they will be punished. Basically, anyone is responsible for their behaviour. I think that's only fair.

              We've removed any political comments and discussions after my initial warning, and handed out already some infractions, again, political discussions have no place in the forums.

              ~ Baskerville

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              • Originally posted by Baskerville View Post
                Well, our policies say that if a player uses slurs, etc, they will be punished and not the world. But if you attack back instead of letting it go and report to support, you will also be punished. If you, as an Owner do something in that world, that is considered inappropriate (i.e. sexual for example) then the world will be closed. If visitors do something inappropriate without your knowledge, only they will be punished. Basically, anyone is responsible for their behaviour. I think that's only fair.

                We've removed any political comments and discussions after my initial warning, and handed out already some infractions, again, political discussions have no place in the forums.

                ~ Baskerville
                Which kind of posts do you consider as political. Just wanna be safe

                My last post here got removed where I said that its kinda weird to make an lgbt world in a game marketed for 7 year olds. Does that count as political

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                • Originally posted by Jedaki View Post
                  Which kind of posts do you consider as political. Just wanna be safe

                  My last post here got removed where I said that its kinda weird to make an lgbt world in a game marketed for 7 year olds. Does that count as political
                  Your post was removed, because of the quote of a post that was removed for political discussion. Your comment itself was not the problem, but the forum will not delete quotes when the quoted thread is deleted. I would say discussions about legislation in different countries or religions and certain beliefs and obviously everything sexual should be strictly avoided. Yes this prevents the discussion about this topic in a political sense, but that's the point.

                  ~ Baskerville

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                  • I won't be discussing this anymore, Ubisoft seems to be extra careful in these situations for reasons we know.

                    And I don't need an suspension for this.

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                    • Originally posted by Baskerville View Post
                      Well, our policies say that if a player uses slurs, etc, they will be punished and not the world. But if you attack back instead of letting it go and report to support, you will also be punished. If you, as an Owner do something in that world, that is considered inappropriate (i.e. sexual for example) then the world will be closed. If visitors do something inappropriate without your knowledge, only they will be punished. Basically, anyone is responsible for their behaviour. I think that's only fair.

                      We've removed any political comments and discussions after my initial warning, and handed out already some infractions, again, political discussions have no place in the forums.

                      ~ Baskerville
                      Alright thanks for clarifying it. I got confused at first. That answers all of my questions.
                      Howdy

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                      • I dont want to argue with yall but since admin removed my post due involved politics issue. I just want to make it clear that.

                        There is no wrong to make a world LGBT's life. Its just how difficult the obstacles through their life finding their own true love.
                        The moral stories of them is about to not give up easily for what the community judge upon you. And courage to do it even risking what might others think about them

                        Even if you disagree with me because of kids.
                        Their age doesnt matter because their will literally learn it someday and going to learn about their sexual identity. And going to know who they exactly are. Either hetero or homo

                        You cant change the way people think towards you. But you can change yourself.
                        Unfortunately
                        No one asked them to be born like that. Not even their parents wants them to born like that.
                        But having a bad society that loves to judge every single of their weakness makes me felt very pity for them.

                        Im not mad/upset. But they way people against it makes me felt that they trying to be act like one of them^^

                        Also for forumers who kept using age and "we are just trying to express our opinion /fp /rolleyes y r u so idot ukyo" as excuses

                        Think about it for a second time.
                        Does it can affect the community of growtopia?

                        Is it bad for kids to learn about other people's life difficulty for being unique or different than normal people ?

                        They also a human. They have feelings. But they just different from us. Even though god says it is wrong. People can change.Treat them as a human, dont treat them like a failed experiment.

                        Its just a world with Motivation and Inspiration story based on LGBT theme. Theres not need to be so biased bout the age.

                        I hate to repeat. please read it until you fully understand what i mean. You know cause others might be confused because of my bad grammar


                        Im not trying to support any side but i want to make it fair and equal.

                        Overall it is big yes for the OP to make a world for us to learn and accept each other for what they be






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                        Last edited by UkyoKuonji; 01-24-2020, 12:55 PM. Reason: Added something and fixed some errors

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                        • Just as I had praised the good moderation in such a conversation, the post purge occurs! I suppose that is the constant cycle of expectation and disappointment that transpires on on a quotidian basis around here. To eliminate an entirely neutral post asking for clear parameters to be set if this discussion is an exception to the rule almost insinuates this discussion would rather be kept nebulous, such that we cannot discern the difference between obvious infraction of the rule and what is protected expression — not much different from how it was before.
                          Originally posted by tson
                          *** concentrated yeast hell no i didnt eat that ****
                          Just finished transcribing this…deliberating on whether or not to adapt it into Growtopia.
                          The answer is yes and at NOTE63.

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                          • Originally posted by Ohlid View Post
                            Just as I had praised the good moderation in such a conversation, the post purge occurs! I suppose that is the constant cycle of expectation and disappointment that transpires on on a quotidian basis around here. To eliminate an entirely neutral post asking for clear parameters to be set if this discussion is an exception to the rule almost insinuates this discussion would rather be kept nebulous, such that we cannot discern the difference between obvious infraction of the rule and what is protected expression — not much different from how it was before.
                            I really don't think that matters that much anymore since staff members stated that it isn't against the rules.
                            Howdy

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                            • Almost 4,000 views on this thread... What has it become
                              Howdy

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                              • Originally posted by DJPMcG View Post
                                Thank you for for kind message. Just DM me on discord and I can give you the world name. I don't feel like sharing it 100% out to the public yet.
                                Ah yes the very secret world name one can't figure out in just a few seconds from looking at the original post
                                I don't play this anymore

                                My Youtube channel link for people looking for it
                                https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP4...HzZ73Qv1vot_yQ

                                These lines are here so people won't click on the link when trying to quote

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