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    Default Regarding BUYMOONCAKE & Royal Lock in general

    It has to be said.

    It has become apparent that BuyMooncake owner(s) is abusing of a such feature to profit, and it has gotten out of hand. Where BUYCRYSTAL was criticized, it has gotten to a whole new level, worse than BUYPRISTINE. Not only were the people silented, but the entrances completely closed with some person (usually an admin) spamming and buying items for underpriced. If not, you just get banned.
    Now, before the "just don't use the world" arguments, it doesn't mean that it is fine. It harms both of the community AND new players. Do you think it is a good example for beginners to see and experience such things, making their lives harder because of few certain players absolutely corrupted and abusing people like they were robots?

    The event only happens once in a year, and some are still allowed to run away with their profit while ruining the spirit of the event by being incredibly antisocial and forcing it on people.

    The royal lock has to be removed or it's ability disabled. It has NEVER brought any benefit for the game itself and the way people feel outside of making the game more profit based. It isn't only my opinion, it stirs up drama on other platforms and makes the life of a huge chunk of the players harder, while also making it even more toxic (thus, the concept of silenced trade worlds spreading due to it being a standard.)

    To people going to argue that it's good because they are profiting, your opinion is invaluable. It is only so few people using those items for that exact purpose.

    EDIT (09-29-2018): Harvest Fest has ended, now BuyPristine is getting the same treatment.
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    I suggest you go to SELLBALANCE. I never support BUY/SELL worlds with Royal Lock.

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    Yep if you try to buy for 7wls they ban you
    I remover it’s not allowed in whatever code
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    There is literally no good use for royal lock, It's only used for profitting and scamming
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    Agreed. This is a MMO. This is a game were we are suppose to socialize. And if a item can disable that, it ruins the point of the game.

    And the fact the ubisoft and we know that the game is a economy type of game, this is like if a business owner FORCED people to sell them there good just to RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE COSTUMER to crank the price up by 2x.

    The feature needs to be removed from the lock. To keep it fair, a new buff to the lock should be added, to replace the "slience pesents".

    Please, things have gone too far this time. I want to socialize. If the comet cape can be changed, this should be too.

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    Considering you are rich TK, and you have the contacts.

    You should open worlds such as

    ___Crystal ___mooncake ___balance etc.

    Someone started the BUY+ world system and you can start a "XXX+'' system.

    So why not try it? 200 sbs a day should do it and in a month or so I am sure your XXX+ worlds will be famous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isla247 View Post
    Considering you are rich TK, and you have the contacts.

    You should open worlds such as

    ___Crystal ___mooncake ___balance etc.

    Someone started the BUY+ world system and you can start a "XXX+'' system.

    So why not try it? 200 sbs a day should do it and in a month or so I am sure your XXX+ worlds will be famous.
    Why does it have to get stereotypical? Who cares if im rich, I'm just a player like others suffering from this, I can't magically fix all of the worlds, it's on the devs end to do something. That's like saying, "casinos don't need to be illegal if people just tell others that it's not right". It doesn't work that way.
    Just FYI, even a mod tried to make one of a such world. It failed hard. You can't just tell people where to go. They will go there anyway and it's a major game problem.

    The toxicity will always persist if nothing is done against it.
    If previous devs were able to speak up their opinion about something such as casinos and do something about it, then ubisoft can aswell. Its not hard to figure out that it is a problem in every way possible if they take a look at it.
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    The problem with BUY+ worlds is that it has to be very specific like if you create a world that's spelled wrong like BUYMONOCOAKE then you would most likely not get any visitors at all unless there is a item that exist and could be sell there. That's one of the major problem with growtopia the buyworlds need to be very straight forward easy to find, which leads to the problem of players owning the BUY+ worlds. Many greedy players would target the necessary buy worlds in order to gain an upper advantage like for example the owner of BUYMOONCAKE. His ways of getting an advantage isn't nonsensical neither illegal as some people may agree. But it's retarded. Trading should be equal, you shouldn't be forced to trade or remove from their buy worlds because there's a great offer. Also if you think about it, the Growtopian code states bullying and abusive behavior is NOT ALLOWED. HE CAN GET REPORTED FOR HIS ABUSIVE POWERS. You can also rate his world a 1 as a tribute for the owner and admins of BUYMOONCAKE unconventional ideas.

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    +1 I agree 100%
    Go check out my world SHUD, still in construction but it's really cool IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nenkaai View Post
    Why does it have to get stereotypical? Who cares if im rich, I'm just a player like others suffering from this, I can't magically fix all of the worlds, it's on the devs end to do something. That's like saying, "casinos don't need to be illegal if people just tell others that it's not right". It doesn't work that way.
    Just FYI, even a mod tried to make one of a such world. It failed hard. You can't just tell people where to go. They will go there anyway and it's a major game problem.

    The toxicity will always persist if nothing is done against it.
    If previous devs were able to speak up their opinion about something such as casinos and do something about it, then ubisoft can aswell. Its not hard to figure out that it is a problem in every way possible if they take a look at it.
    I get it. I am suffering from this like all others. One reason why I am still keeping my mooncakes for now. But I can see this affecting lower-end players even more.

    A lot of smaller worlds have also resorted to royal lock + removing bulletin so we have to buy from their vends, which suck, but hey what can I do? I am just a small fry in a big game.

    I hardly trade items nowadays and just farm recently, this game has became not fun for me anymore.
    The entire community is toxic anyway, in fact I tried helping a guild member by asking her for access in her semi-built farm world, so I can pass her my extra 1k pinball seeds and finish building the farm for her. But instead, she ignored me, left the guild and ban me.
    I don't even blame her, there's no reason to trust anyone anymore.

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    Ok this is kind of lame lmao. I can see many other big buy worlds using this tactic in the future.
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    The owner of BUYMOONCAKE also owns BUYBALANCE, BUYBALANCES.

    Not much comfort knowing that its a cornered market. The use of royal lock and closing the doors is truly, the ultimate act of pure profiting.

    But I like what LostKings is doing for now.. at least now we have SELLCRYSTAL to go to. Like TK said, most people will gravitate to the relatively more populated worlds.

    If anything, it speaks volumes of the person who owns these worlds. I also dun support these worlds and the owner and like another forumer said, we can always look elsewhere and support other things, form another community to help the weak. But i also agree with TK here that the devs are certainly in the best position to promote good social behaviour.
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    I just force myself to adapt.

    In the real world, your thoughts and opinions are almost all the time silenced and overshadowed by big companies/brands and governments.

    There is always an alternative no matter what you do.


    Back to the topic, here is how you can overthrow them.

    Create a new trend to overshadow them with a good team.
    I might actually do this, but it would be insanely hard to convince the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeHeeBee View Post
    I just force myself to adapt.

    In the real world, your thoughts and opinions are almost all the time silenced and overshadowed by big companies/brands and governments.

    There is always an alternative no matter what you do.


    Back to the topic, here is how you can overthrow them.

    Create a new trend to overshadow them with a good team.
    I might actually do this, but it would be insanely hard to convince the community.
    How hard can it be, you basically control 1/3 of the BFG owners. That's a huge start if you ask me.
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    Finally,someone rants about it.
    Buycrystal have a long period of silenced mode session i guess.
    And that abusive power wasn't caused by the item(object) but by the user (subject).
    Like when you use religion to brainwashing new members, was it the object fault? No.

    The correct way is to give him a bad feedback
    Whether you rate 1, humiliate owner by sb as your disagree, well i just giving less fu*k about him and doing own sb to find sellers,just like some pros did,even with similar price.

    I don't support abusive function on item.
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    And don't forget the BUYMOONCAKES
    and some worlds.
    Or maybe he is reading & noticing in here
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    Quote Originally Posted by IHasName View Post
    How hard can it be, you basically control 1/3 of the BFG owners. That's a huge start if you ask me.
    Not enough. I need an insane alliance, and people I'm not fond of too.

    And some people HAVE to join, or the plan will fall. Some people are just too unique.
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    I certainly agree with what you're saying, its quite absurd what they're doing!
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    I completely agree with you tk.. It annoyed the crap out of me yesterday. Both of the world relating to balance is owned by the same stupid owner... But i can't do nothing about it but luckily i went to Sellbalance and there are some people, so i guess we should just go and trade there...
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    Another thing:
    He probably bought the worlds for insane amounts of dls. Probably.

    So he should deserve the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeHeeBee View Post
    Another thing:
    He probably bought the worlds for insane amounts of dls. Probably.

    So he should deserve the world.
    He could add whatever hell number of vends he wants but atleast LET PEOPLE TRADE!

    I agree! "Silence Peasents" must be removed and add another feature instead of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nenkaai View Post
    It has to be said.

    It has become apparent that BuyMooncake owner(s) is abusing of a such feature to profit, and it has gotten out of hand. Where BUYCRYSTAL was criticized, it has gotten to a whole new level, worse than BUYPRISTINE. Not only were the people silented, but the entrances completely closed with some person (usually an admin) spamming and buying items for underpriced. If not, you just get banned.
    Now, before the "just don't use the world" arguments, it doesn't mean that it is fine. It harms both of the community AND new players. Do you think it is a good example for beginners to see and experience such things, making their lives harder because of few certain players absolutely corrupted and abusing people like they were robots?

    The event only happens once in a year, and some are still allowed to run away with their profit while ruining the spirit of the event by being incredibly antisocial and forcing it on people.

    The royal lock has to be removed or it's ability disabled. It has NEVER brought any benefit for the game itself and the way people feel outside of making the game more profit based. It isn't only my opinion, it stirs up drama on other platforms and makes the life of a huge chunk of the players harder, while also making it even more toxic (thus, the concept of silenced trade worlds spreading due to it being a standard.)

    To people going to argue that it's good because they are profiting, your opinion is invaluable. It is only so few people using those items for that exact purpose.
    Didn't you read the news? growtopia is not about socialising anymore... its all about being rich and show off.. your opinion doesn't matter and call you peasant that's why they silenced you

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