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    Default [OFFICIAL] Duplication discussion + Information

    Hey, all.

    Update for you, check the official announcement for more info:
    • Rayman's Fist is now unlocked.
    • All other items with the exception of 3 (Thingamabob, Phoenix Wings & Da Vinci Wings) are unlocked, as well.
    • You can now trade the items that were duplicated - only large amounts are now being targeted. See the below quote for more info.


    Quote Originally Posted by NekoRei View Post
    Hello everyone,

    Just to be clear, the 30% of the duplicated items still exist, and you can go ahead and trade them.

    We will only tackle large amounts if we do, we will not remove additional locks with the items remaining. We already took actions against the players who traded the most from Staropi.

    We managed to remove close to 100% of the Rayman’s Fists, but we released some other items such as Valentines Week items even if we did not reach 100% because the event is starting soon.

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    (EDITED)What happens if people who found the dupe glitch, duped ages and ages ago, hid the items on others accounts without the system/admins recognise its duped?

    What is the process of you guys removing the items and how long will this take?

    Is there compensation?

    Will there be apology weekend/week but no rollback?

    Please awnser any question you can Ubisoft.
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    Dumb logic. buying a large quantity is now an exploitation. Let me go buy 2k asteroids for a cheap price. Omg its a large amount im exploiting.
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    So im hoping i wont get a ban because as stated it says people that bought knowingly in mass amounts will be banned. And i unknowgly at the time bought a phoenic wing and a golden diaper
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    Guys whats with all the reserved? You guys were quite happy to jump on other threads and have your say.

    Mods firstly thank you for not rolling back, there are lots of people that have spent a lot of time on their accounts doing the right thing and that would have a negative impact on them.

    Secondly can we ask how far back you guys are investigating? While this has blown up today, apparently the duplication has been going on for quite some time (some have said a week, others have said longer).

    I'd also like to ask for something else that hasn't been taken into consideration in the past. Is it possible we could be given more time for Grow event given the down time of the game? Is this something that can also be considered in future when there are problems while events, carnival etc are on?

    Like others have on other threads I'd also like to ask for IP bans for those that caused the problem and any other IP address they have used on alts so they cant simply log in on their phone instead of their home wifi. It's simply not fair to everyone else they cause these problems and we don't want them in the game. Im not talking about the newbie that YouTubed it and tried it with a wl or something, Im talking about the person/people that started all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsKyan View Post
    So im hoping i wont get a ban because as stated it says people that bought knowingly in mass amounts will be banned. And i unknowgly at the time bought a phoenic wing and a golden diaper

    thats not mass amounts to profit off. You will be fine from what they have said above. They are talking about those that went and bought a heap of Davinci or something.

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    I think making rollback will be better for devs because it takes long long time to check so many records with little amount of people to search out the dup items but first find out the root of the problem and then make a rollback. After that maybe having a double gems drop for 1 or 2 week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgs View Post
    Guys whats with all the reserved? You guys were quite happy to jump on other threads and have your say.

    Mods firstly thank you for not rolling back, there are lots of people that have spent a lot of time on their accounts doing the right thing and that would have a negative impact on them.

    Secondly can we ask how far back you guys are investigating? While this has blown up today, apparently the duplication has been going on for quite some time (some have said a week, others have said longer).

    I'd also like to ask for something else that hasn't been taken into consideration in the past. Is it possible we could be given more time for Grow event given the down time of the game? Is this something that can also be considered in future when there are problems while events, carnival etc are on?

    Like others have on other threads I'd also like to ask for IP bans for those that caused the problem and any other IP address they have used on alts so they cant simply log in on their phone instead of their home wifi. It's simply not fair to everyone else they cause these problems and we don't want them in the game. Im not talking about the newbie that YouTubed it and tried it with a wl or something, Im talking about the person/people that started all of this.

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    thats not mass amounts to profit off. You will be fine from what they have said above. They are talking about those that went and bought a heap of Davinci or something.
    I really hope so, i have valentines week and the kentucky derby coming up and cant miss em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FOWL View Post
    Dumb logic. buying a large quantity is now an exploitation. Let me go buy 2k asteroids for a cheap price. Omg its a large amount im exploiting.
    I think theres a difference between buying a pair of da vinci wings to try them out, and buying 20 for 10 world locks and selling them for 10 dls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metrix View Post
    I think theres a difference between buying a pair of da vinci wings to try them out, and buying 20 for 10 world locks and selling them for 10 dls.
    I agree with you
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    what about those who completed and obtained legendary items? will they get a bigger punishment because they bought those duplicated items to complete it?

    how will you know if a person duped an item? what if a person has already hoarded the items duped in the past and is still playing until this day and went online during the dupe event. how will you track the items?

    why don't you open the beta servers to test out the new features of blocks so that if any bugs/exploits are found, they can immediately fix them?

    how long is maintenance? at least an estimated time of the duration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FOWL View Post
    Dumb logic. buying a large quantity is now an exploitation. Let me go buy 2k asteroids for a cheap price. Omg its a large amount im exploiting.
    Knowingly being the operative term. It'll predominantly be on a case-by-case investigation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morgs View Post
    Secondly can we ask how far back you guys are investigating? While this has blown up today, apparently the duplication has been going on for quite some time (some have said a week, others have said longer).
    Personally can't say for certain right now, I'll try to find out - though I imagine they'll attempt to look back as far as they can by trying to find the origin point and go from there. If others say it's been going on for a week, we'll have to look at least that far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morgs View Post
    I'd also like to ask for something else that hasn't been taken into consideration in the past. Is it possible we could be given more time for Grow event given the down time of the game? Is this something that can also be considered in future when there are problems while events, carnival etc are on?
    Since Carnival and other events are automatic and not competitive, it's unlikely it'd happen in those cases. It's a potential for Guild Events, but I'd imagine only on a massive scale. It'll likely depend on the amount of down-time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morgs View Post
    Like others have on other threads I'd also like to ask for IP bans for those that caused the problem and any other IP address they have used on alts so they cant simply log in on their phone instead of their home wifi. It's simply not fair to everyone else they cause these problems and we don't want them in the game. Im not talking about the newbie that YouTubed it and tried it with a wl or something, Im talking about the person/people that started all of this.
    The bans that are given out will likely all be IP bans - however, to my knowledge, the perpetrator has a habit of being an avid ban evader. However, newbies couldn't try the glitch - the duplication itself was contained due to it needing an item very hard to come by. It's the spreading of the rares that are the main issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by SnowBlizter View Post
    what about those who completed and obtained legendary items? will they get a bigger punishment because they bought those duplicated items to complete it?

    how will you know if a person duped an item? what if a person has already hoarded the items duped in the past and is still playing until this day and went online during the dupe event. how will you track the items?

    why don't you open the beta servers to test out the new features of blocks so that if any bugs/exploits are found, they can immediately fix them?

    how long is maintenance? at least an estimated time of the duration.
    Those who actually do get banned will probably all have the same, severe punishment. Though, I can't say for sure right now. A permanent ban might be on the cards.

    Players who legitimately have numerous rare items won't be banned.

    No set time for the maintenance at the moment, @growtopiagame on Twitter is likely your best source for updates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metrix View Post
    I think theres a difference between buying a pair of da vinci wings to try them out, and buying 20 for 10 world locks and selling them for 10 dls.
    Agreed and thats what they have said above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FOWL View Post
    Dumb logic. buying a large quantity is now an exploitation. Let me go buy 2k asteroids for a cheap price. Omg its a large amount im exploiting.
    Eheheheheheheheheheheh read first, its the duped item not the normal item and first it says "knowingly" there's the difference about buying large quantity for reasonable price and no reasonable price (prob duped items), or maybe you buy the duped items for large quantity try to sell it higher eh ? and u dont want to get banned

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    Quote Originally Posted by iGloomyy View Post
    Eheheheheheheheheheheh read first, its the duped item not the normal item and first it says "knowingly" there's the difference about buying large quantity for reasonable price and no reasonable price (prob duped items), or maybe you buy the duped items for large quantity try to sell it higher eh ? and u dont want to get banned
    you sound stupid. Duped or not duped it’s still a prime example. lmao and buying pwings for 10 wls far beyond a reasonable price😂. I barely play this game anymore so if you wanna jump into assumptions go ahead
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    Still gonna say that you shouldn’t ban the buyers no matter what excuse you wanna say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FOWL View Post
    Dumb logic. buying a large quantity is now an exploitation. Let me go buy 2k asteroids for a cheap price. Omg its a large amount im exploiting.
    Exactly why we should find the bug fix and then rollback
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    One thing you guys aren't considering is the fact that some people will buy a lot of duplicated items just to be able to screenshot it and show their friends, not to sell them and hurt the economy.

    Simply taking the items away is the best way to deal with the situation. It's a 50/50 chance people were stocking up to get rich or just wanting to seem like big shots.

    Honestly, I'm only upset because my friend bought Phoenix Wings from a vend for 160 wls because he thought the owner meant to put it as 160 dls.

    I really hope my friend won't be banned..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andromalius View Post
    One thing you guys aren't considering is the fact that some people will buy a lot of duplicated items just to be able to screenshot it and show their friends, not to sell them and hurt the economy.

    Simply taking the items away is the best way to deal with the situation. It's a 50/50 chance people were stocking up to get rich or just wanting to seem like big shots.

    Honestly, I'm only upset because my friend bought Phoenix Wings from a vend for 160 wls because he thought the owner meant to put it as 160 dls.

    I really hope my friend won't be banned..
    They said earlier they are after the big fish, those that started it and those that did it or mass purchased rare items for profit. Your friend should be fine. He will probably lose the wings but should get his wl back

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    So when all of you ignorants were bought in trade world or seeing Multiple SBs selling insanely cheap wings, have you doing self aware?
    to not eat the bait with the risk u might got catched.

    i saw only few players having self awareness
    and keeps remind their colleagues to not buy in crowded trade worlds.. what about other?
    NO Fukg Given, they only lurking around for 2-3DLS
    PWING sellers. Why so?
    was it because the reminder chat from kind topians blocked?
    Why they still enthusiast hunting those!?
    Its because few Arsehorses told them no rollback.
    That means It safe! maybe they hope they can hid
    the pwing and still making safe n sound.


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