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    Hey guys, So I have been thinking for a while, why are Casinos illegal? It really sort of pisses me off as it comes off greedy from growtopia. I get how “Betting” Is illegal in growtopia and therefore, Casinos are illegal. However this entire strand of logic makes no sense! Everything and I mean EVERYTHING in growtopia is betting. Buying seed packs, is betting, Super fireworks are betting, Holiday packs like valentines are betting, even breaking trees are betting, and countless more examples. How is betting only illegal when Ubisoft doesnt profit? Im sure many other people have commented on this but it just seems so foolish to me.
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    I guess in a sense, via Ubisoft's way, you are getting something at least, while casinos you can go bust

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    First off, while I agree that it shouldn't be illegal, I should point out some things.

    The decision was made by Sethmumu way back then before Ubisoft. If you didn't know, when they announced it, the forums have the most active users at the same time. It was soo topical and controversial.

    They lost a huge portion of the player because of how insanely popular casinos are (the dominant one being FX by SydeFX). The decision was made to prevent losing more players, but has a negative backfire, because since then, the number of players rose a bit for months, then started to decline.
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    I mean I guess thats true, But isn't that such a minute difference? You can easily run a casino where you get 1/3 of your bet back anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by New FrostDirt View Post
    First off, while I agree that it shouldn't be illegal, I should point out some things.

    The decision was made by Sethmumu way back then before Ubisoft. If you didn't know, when they announced it, the forums have the most active users at the same time. It was soo topical and controversial.

    They lost a huge portion of the player because of how insanely popular casinos are (the dominant one being FX by SydeFX). The decision was made to prevent losing more players, but has a negative backfire, because since then, the number of players rose a bit for months, then started to decline.
    Yeah ik, Thought I would just update my opinion and try to revert the change. If the devs could present an actual reason why they are banned, that would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojobean HD View Post
    Hey guys, So I have been thinking for a while, why are Casinos illegal? It really sort of pisses me off as it comes off greedy from growtopia. I get how “Betting” Is illegal in growtopia and therefore, Casinos are illegal. However this entire strand of logic makes no sense! Everything and I mean EVERYTHING in growtopia is betting. Buying seed packs, is betting, Super fireworks are betting, Holiday packs like valentines are betting, even breaking trees are betting, and countless more examples. How is betting only illegal when Ubisoft doesnt profit? Im sure many other people have commented on this but it just seems so foolish to me.
    So many thousands of players have gotten extremely upset, or quit the game, as a result of casinos (both by being scammed, and simply by losing legitimately) I don't think playing casino is good , plus this game are usually played by underage.

    Buying seed packs, is betting, Super fireworks are betting, Holiday packs like valentines are betting, even breaking trees are betting, and countless more examples. ( Plus I dont think these are betting as it is a normal thing when it comes to online game ) Growtopia is not the only one who sell the packs and you get item randomly .


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    Banning casinos was a vote within the GT forums if you can recall. My suggestion is doing another POLL to see the results. In the end it's up to Ubisoft and allowing betting is most likely not going to happen because the game is targeted towards an audience of children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by New FrostDirt View Post
    First off, while I agree that it shouldn't be illegal, I should point out some things.

    The decision was made by Sethmumu way back then before Ubisoft. If you didn't know, when they announced it, the forums have the most active users at the same time. It was soo topical and controversial.

    They lost a huge portion of the player because of how insanely popular casinos are (the dominant one being FX by SydeFX). The decision was made to prevent losing more players, but has a negative backfire, because since then, the number of players rose a bit for months, then started to decline.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojobean HD View Post
    Yeah ik, Thought I would just update my opinion and try to revert the change. If the devs could present an actual reason why they are banned, that would be nice.
    The decision wasn't theirs, WE, THE PLAYERS, voted on a forum poll to ban all casinos in the game. The devs didn't make that decision, they only acted upon it. Gambling will never be allowed in the game as not only would that make child gambling addiction more severe but also it could bring legal action on the company


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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTkid505HD View Post
    The decision wasn't theirs, WE, THE PLAYERS, voted on a forum poll to ban all casinos in the game. The devs didn't make that decision, they only acted upon it. Gambling will never be allowed in the game as not only would that make child gambling addiction more severe but also it could bring legal action on the company
    Buddy how is opening valentine packs for a tiny chance of getting rich not gambling? The point is, if you are going to outlaw gambling, dont do so only if you dont profit..

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    So many thousands of players have gotten extremely upset, or quit the game, as a result of casinos (both by being scammed, and simply by losing legitimately) I don't think playing casino is good , plus this game are usually played by underage.

    Buying seed packs, is betting, Super fireworks are betting, Holiday packs like valentines are betting, even breaking trees are betting, and countless more examples. ( Plus I dont think these are betting as it is a normal thing when it comes to online game ) Growtopia is not the only one who sell the packs and you get item randomly .


    CASINO IS NOT A GOOD THING IN GROWTOPIA , GLAD THAT THEY HAD MAKE THIS kind of betting game ILLEGAL.
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    If I'm recalling correctly, STYX put tons of pressure on the devs by threatening to step down as a moderator.

    I'd attribute a part of the banning to community outrage.

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    I believe that casinos are illegal, because game doesn't have any age requirement and casinos are +18 in real life. Just a random opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojobean HD View Post
    Buddy how is opening valentine packs for a tiny chance of getting rich not gambling? The point is, if you are going to outlaw gambling, dont do so only if you dont profit..

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    If Growtopia really wants to remove CASINOS, then they should remove "Roulette Wheel" Name:  fullsizeoutput_9.jpeg
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    I think Growtopia just wants people to play casinos but undercover.

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    If casino would be legal, majority of the people would either host casino or gamble to profit instead of massing, farming etc.

    Everyone will start making their own casinos and it will be like you're in Las Vegas. Everything you will see in the broadcasts are advertising their casinos.

    This game's goal has been geared towards profiting and once people know how quick to earn wls from casino, they will keep gambling until eventually they lose and start whining.

    Back when it was still legal, a good amount of people protested against casinos and some would buy access to the popular casino worlds and when the owner was offline, the admin griefs the casino and target the other popular casinos.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen View Post
    If casino would be legal, majority of the people would either host casino or gamble to profit instead of massing, farming etc.

    Everyone will start making their own casinos and it will be like you're in Las Vegas. Everything you will see in the broadcasts are advertising their casinos.

    This game's goal has been geared towards profiting and once people know how quick to earn wls from casino, they will keep gambling until eventually they lose and start whining.

    Back when it was still legal, a good amount of people protested against casinos and some would buy access to the popular casino worlds and when the owner was offline, the admin griefs the casino and target the other popular casinos.

    They already do. Look at all the casino broadcasts when the mods are offline. Go to BUY, at least 30 spammers at all times spamming casino world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukj2001 View Post
    If I'm recalling correctly, STYX put tons of pressure on the devs by threatening to step down as a moderator.

    I'd attribute a part of the banning to community outrage.
    I'm fairly sure the poll was already mostly for banning casinos, even before STYX stepped in.

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    But then again,some casinos are straight up scamming people since when they drop like a decent amount of wls,they ban them so,yeah.

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    Casinos are illegal in the real world to people under the age of 18, and depending on where you are from they still might not be legal to you until you are 21. It's not right to legalize casinos in a game that children under those ages play, and it's not fair to make the game 18+ just because a few people want to play. It is also nearly impossible to track players' actual ages in order to set a requirement for casinos.

    The rules against casinos were made for a reason. The fact that they used to be legal and now are illegal tells me a lot. There was obviously enough concern going around that they felt they needed to put an end to casinos.

    To be blunt, I think anyone who wants casinos to come back should cut their losses and stop arguing about the rules. They are here for good reason.
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    What its not like a bunch of 7-12 year olds should be playing casino so it should be illegal
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