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    I had enough. This is outrages.

    First of, I'm not asking for the removal of singling out, instead, improvement. Lately, a lot of forumers have been offering their services, such as Bfg, farm management, s stats management, suppliers, etc. The problem is, we AREN'T allowed to call out the OP, if he/she does not do what he/she is suppose to. If this is so, more players will fall for his/her scams.

    So, this is my suggestion:
    1. Instead of thread rating (1-5 star, which we barely notice at all), change it to upvotes and downvotes. Make the icon bigger, so more people will notice.

    2. Players are only able to upvotes/downvotes with a reason. When the icon is clicked on, the webpage will be directed to thread reply. The downvotes/upvotes will only appear once the player submit reply. (fake upvote or downvotes are strictly prohibited, if found, ban hammer awaits you)

    3. One player, one collab thread. To prevent players from creating a new thread and escape from bad ratings old thread.

    4. Players are allowed to give a negative review to the thread with a mature manner. Such as: -1, he/she took my xxxxxx and have not return it ever since (strong usage of profanity and big caps isn't allowed). Futher discussion of how the OP scams should not be carry on in the thread, but pm.

    5.Only players with lesser wizard rank or above are allowed to vote.

    Feel free to share your thoughts

    Thread inspired by Selim. Selim, if you're reading this, you have my respect

    Edit: Also, stop replying singling out is illegal in a singling out thread although someone had already mentioned it. It is disappointing to see such cultural still exist in forums and it get worse day by day. Singling out meme is dead. Instead, you could have suggest them ways to earn back the wls or ignore the thread.
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    Great idea!

    By the way, a forumer well known for scamming two growscans (ya'll know who it is) has put your name on a trusted list again.
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    As you said, singling out should be allowed, but under strict rules, and should there be any drama, all drama makers shall be punished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darwinated View Post
    Great idea!

    By the way, a forumer well known for scamming two growscans (ya'll know who it is) has put your name on a trusted list again.
    And im surprised the fact that my name is still on his list though ive report every thread with my name on it. Hello? guardians?
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    As you said, singling out should be allowed, but under strict rules, and should there be any drama, all drama makers shall be punished.
    Indeed.
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    Is this reddit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScammePlse View Post
    Is this reddit?
    No, but based on my experience. I've surf a lot of game forums during the past few months and I've noticed this system.
    ps. Reddit does not own upvotes, downvotes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScammePlse View Post
    Is this reddit?
    Alt to reddit
    welp. i dont any ideas to add to my signature
    and also i have only 2 brain cells

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    singling out is seen as negative due to its "naming and shaming" nature... and thanks to the tendency of humans escalating situations and jumping bandwagons it can get from 0 - 100 real fast... I'm not saying the idea of singling out is good nor bad... I'm just saying i doubt there is a way to be able to have singling out (as a warning rather than an attack) to be implemented in a way that does that... so i would say just leaving it as keep people anonymous when online is the best option to save face... although I'm not sure how often mods actually handle these kinds of situations when given a name.

    now I'm not the kind of person to like jumping on to trends (positive or negative) but you can see the reaction the James Charles scandal got where it went from James being called out for promoting a competitive brand to literally being called a sexual predator by the community.

    so no... singling out publicly should in no way be enabled, enforced, or encouraged...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVLEE View Post
    I had enough. This is outrages.

    First of, I'm not asking for the removal of singling out, instead, improvement. Lately, a lot of forumers have been offering their services, such as Bfg, farm management, s stats management, suppliers, etc. The problem is, we AREN'T allowed to call out the OP, if he/she does not do what he/she is suppose to. If this is so, more players will fall for his/her scams.

    So, this is my suggestion:
    1. Instead of thread rating (1-5 star, which we barely notice at all), change it to upvotes and downvotes. Make the icon bigger, so more people will notice.

    2. Players are only able to upvotes/downvotes with a reason. When the icon is clicked on, the webpage will be directed to thread reply. The downvotes/upvotes will only appear once the player submit reply. (fake upvote or downvotes are strictly prohibited, if found, ban hammer awaits you)

    3. One player, one collab thread. To prevent players from creating a new thread and escape from bad ratings old thread.

    4. Players are allowed to give a negative review to the thread with a mature manner. Such as: -1, he/she took my xxxxxx and have not return it ever since (strong usage of profanity and big caps isn't allowed). Futher discussion of how the OP scams should not be carry on in the thread, but pm.

    Feel free to share your thoughts

    Thread inspired by Selim. Selim, if you're reading this, you have my respect

    Edit: Also, stop replying singling out is illegal in a singling out thread although someone had already mentioned it. It is disappointing to see such cultural still exist in forums and it get worse day by day. Singling out meme is dead. Instead, you could have suggest them ways to earn back the wls or ignore the thread.
    I believe the forums use vBulletin which is quite restrictive on adjustments or introduction of features. Thus this is impossible to actually do, which is sad because I quite like the idea of upvotes & downvotes (deletes all the irrelevant and stupid posts).

    Though, I'm not certain on that - you might have to check.
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    This is a useless idea. With no way of establishing veracity, the entire system is an organized mob β€” no better than we have now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Techy View Post
    I believe the forums use vBulletin which is quite restrictive on adjustments or introduction of features. Thus this is impossible to actually do, which is sad because I quite like the idea of upvotes & downvotes (deletes all the irrelevant and stupid posts).

    Though, I'm not certain on that - you might have to check.
    https://www.vbulletin.org/forum/show...233296&page=13
    The yes and no part might be what we are looking for
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerTehDoh View Post
    singling out is seen as negative due to its "naming and shaming" nature... and thanks to the tendency of humans escalating situations and jumping bandwagons it can get from 0 - 100 real fast... I'm not saying the idea of singling out is good nor bad... I'm just saying i doubt there is a way to be able to have singling out (as a warning rather than an attack) to be implemented in a way that does that... so i would say just leaving it as keep people anonymous when online is the best option to save face... although I'm not sure how often mods actually handle these kinds of situations when given a name.

    now I'm not the kind of person to like jumping on to trends (positive or negative) but you can see the reaction the James Charles scandal got where it went from James being called out for promoting a competitive brand to literally being called a sexual predator by the community.

    so no... singling out publicly should in no way be enabled, enforced, or encouraged...

    thank you for coming to my TEDTalk
    There are different ways to do things. My idea might not be the best, but that's the least I can think of to save thousands of wls every year. I did mention that by giving a negative review on a player, the tone have to be mature.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ohlid View Post
    This is a useless idea. With no way of establishing veracity, the entire system is an organized mob β€” no better than we have now.
    Ah yes, glad that you pointed that out. Ive been working to find a way to prevent such things (fake upvotes, downvotes) from happening. What I have a mind now is only players with lesser wizard rank or above are allowed to vote.
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    Bumping this.
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    I would love to report players in forum rather than in_
    -game. You don't know if mods saw your report or not but in forums, I'M GONNA CLOSE UR THREAD!!". But at least they gotta check that out

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    Or maybe have a special section for that like *Report*
    Where you can post a report on some scammer, scam world, casino world with solid proof? And when you report someone that thread wont show up in "whats new" part?
    Also you couldn't post on that thread you can view it, but not post you know what i mean? Basically its just for Mods to see!

    Just suggesting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BEYSBOLL View Post
    I would love to report players in forum rather than in_
    -game. You don't know if mods saw your report or not but in forums, I'M GONNA CLOSE UR THREAD!!". But at least they gotta check that out
    My goal is not get the player banned, instead, warn the others that the guy is doing something fishy (it is still up to them to trust the guy)
    Quote Originally Posted by REALGOPNIK View Post
    Or maybe have a special section for that like *Report*
    Where you can post a report on some scammer, scam world, casino world with solid proof? And when you report someone that thread wont show up in "whats new" part?
    Also you couldn't post on that thread you can view it, but not post you know what i mean? Basically its just for Mods to see!

    Just suggesting...
    Solid reason... that's why scammers still exist. I mean, who will turn OBS studio on whenever they play growtopia?
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