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    Hey everyone.
    Putting this in update discussions since this is regarding a suggestion I think should be put in game and it kind of is an update discussion, I guess? Well, you guys can move it to whatever if you want. This would also bring way more attention to the problem anyways since this is the most active subforum. So, here goes:

    A couple of days ago Zeh, some admins I won't call by name and I built a world. This world looked like a casino world when you first look at it, which was kind of the idea, but the idea of the world was a minigame with prizes (You do not deposit/waste/bet or anything like that yourself). In this world you had to spin a roulette wheel, one of the two people spinning, whoever spins the bigger number, gets to the next round. The last round's winner gets 20wls. It was just a harmful minigame if you take out the Roulette Wheels, which brings me back to why I was even involved in this issue.

    There has always been a fight between whether or not Ubisoft should remove Roulette Wheels from the game. The biggest argument the developers have had is, and I quote, " The removal of Roulette Wheels won't stop casinos anyways. They will always find other ways", which to me sounds like the dumbest statement a person can make. Every step matters, no matter how small it is. The removal of Roulette Wheel, or just it's function for that matter, would be one step closer to closing casinos for good. There is nothing they would lose (Except for some players who LIVE OFF OF the roulette wheels and casinos, which they suspend anyways) by doing that. There can only be positive things coming out of it. If you can't remove an "old item" from the game entirely, just remove the god damn function of Roulette Wheel from the game

    I had a long conversation after that incident with Misthios, when I explained why I was there. And as far as I found out from that conversation, he also thinks Roulette Wheels are bad for the game (He just mentioned that there is nothing he can do about it), but if this gets enough attention, I believe there is something we can do about it.

    So, what are your thoughts on this? Don't you all agree that removal of the Roulette Wheels would only bring more peace and nothing more to the game? That nothing bad can come out of that? I'd really love to hear other experienced players' thoughts.

    Thanks for reading this rather long paragraph and sorry for all the typos. Writing this all from my phone.
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    Casino owners will still find a way if this will get removed, also. Old items cannot be removed ~ an old forumer <not me>

    They should remove it

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1NB4 View Post
    Casino owners will still find a way if this will get removed, also. Old items cannot be removed ~ an old forumer <not me>

    They should remove it
    this is what I want to say
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1NB4 View Post
    Casino owners will still find a way if this will get removed, also. Old items cannot be removed ~ an old forumer <not me>

    They should remove it
    Very well. Thanks for reading the entire post. Especially the part when I address this.
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    what about people who own 100k wheels? like they cant just take them away

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGoProfit GT View Post
    what about people who own 100k wheels? like they cant just take them away
    You too, thanks for reading the post before replying. Like the part that says Remove the function of the wheels, then
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    Btw this. .
    Quote Originally Posted by Rimuoi View Post
    making roulette like chand blocks doesn't bring up numbers when we punch
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    damn, sorry about your perma ban.

    the roulette wheel doesn't really have a point outside of casinos, except it being some sort of a decorative block, i guess?

    they're not wrong, removing the wheel wouldn't do too much, there are so many ways to gamble, like with any block in the game, so with that logic they should remove everything.

    i think casinos are at the point in the game where it's pointless to keep them illegal. people who are playing them clearly just dont care about risking their belongings and they just want to have fun. they know they most likely wont get to keep their items in the long run, so basically anyone who is playing casinos rn is not harmful to the game.

    also, about your ban, let me know what happens when you try to open a case with ubisoft support, i opened 2 cases about mine and they got closed manually by a ubisoft staff without a reply. idk if its a glitch or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGertie View Post
    You too, thanks for reading the post before replying. Like the part that says Remove the function of the wheels, then
    If they remove the function then alot of people who own alot of wheels would lose wls the wheel would be just useless decoration block

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGoProfit GT View Post
    If they remove the function then alot of people who own alot of wheels would lose wls the wheel would be just useless decoration block
    Ubisoft doesn't really care about that though. For example the anomalizing delicate tools' names were changed to reliable and now buydelicate is useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IGoProfit GT View Post
    what about people who own 100k wheels? like they cant just take them away
    Yeah, but who owns 100k roulette wheels? :v

    But as for the post, it does give a solution to the problem. And uh, I'm sorry for your ban, have a free nuke emoji?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedaki View Post
    Ubisoft doesn't really care about that though. For example the anomalizing delicate tools' names were changed to reliable and now buydelicate is useless.
    Some people losing some wls over having the function of Roulette Wheels removed is a (No meme intended) is a small price to pay.
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    Removing roulette wheels is not a small step to closing casinos. How does its removal, in any way, make life harder for casinos? There is not much more effort required to gamble with any other block. Removing or getting rid of the roulette wheel’s function is pointless
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    Keep blocks
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    remove numbers
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    You refute no argument. Although prevention is a slippery slope, there is no evidence to support such a claim that the removal of roulette wheels would even reduce casinos. It may play out that way in your head; think though — casinos are banned, yet they still exist. Is that not enough of a deterrent? Is not one to counter with no proposal, but the very premise of the refute undermining a valid criticism is fallacious in nature. To remove something people enjoy without any concrete evidence that removing it is beneficial is simply imposed will.
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    I'm not sure if this would play out as you think it would. There might be a lot of consequences with such thing getting removed by thinking that it will reduce casinos although it's an option that can be tried out and see how it works from there. I guess it's up for Ubisoft staff to decide whether they want something like this removed or not.
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    Seems reasonable tbh, I've never thought of that.
    I think it would be a very quick and easy fix BUT, I am no expert.
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    Disagree , How about BuyRoulette owner ? He have stocked tons of roulette to be sold , and if you directly remove it , he will lose tons of dls he invested and the dls when he bought the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TURNNOW View Post
    Disagree , How about BuyRoulette owner ? He have stocked tons of roulette to be sold , and if you directly remove it , he will lose tons of dls he invested and the dls when he bought the world.
    Not an issue, devs renamed delicate tools to reliable tools, owner of buydelicate didn't complain much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGertie View Post
    No it is not pointless. Pointless is saying "Eh, my vote doesn't matter anyways" before going to elections. Which is exactly the same argument they're using for the wheels.

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    Could you explain to me how removal would damage casinos enough to make it worth it?
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