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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    SURPRISE! Another unbalanced 2 new blocks from Time-Tossed update for Zombie Event, Sandbag Wall and Barbed Wire Barrier. Both of them drops only 1 Block from synthesizing a chemical, and current price 3-4 WLS each (You can find maximum 15 blocks, there is only 5 seller on board) Just buff them to 10blocks per reward...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EerieGt View Post
    I like how you just ignore the replies that justify an opinion different than yours.
    I replied almost all replies from who has different opinions if you check this thread. But your reply was so absurd;

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    Why would you not question a clothing item worth let's say 60dls but a single block costing 1wl?

    Try to think of this: a world with all those rare blocks is equivalent to a pair of golden angel wings or something like that. Nobody ever said that you should only waste wls on clothes as most people do. In fact as you said building is one of the major features of the game so it is only logical to have rare blocks as it is to have rare clothes.

    Now you wouldn't complain about certain clothing being expensive in fact it's a crucial part of the game as people set their goals to get a certain item and grind for it for years. Same with worlds if someone doesn't want to buy expensive wings let him build an expensive world.
    If you really read my thread, and check this thing in-game, you will understand me. This kind of blocks so expensive because they are super rare. Even if you want to build a world with them, you can't because nobody sells them! Also are you really accept paying 4wls for 1 Barred Wire Barrier or other new blocks? If you do, probably you don't like to build something in-game..

    Also as you said sometimes there should be expensive Decoration items such as Crystal Tree or Crystal Clock. But if you check the last updates since 2018. Almost all of these new blocks are 1per wls. Is this what you want? Or just i want to ask you this, Do you like to building something in-game? If you do, let us to check your world that you builded it with new blocks..
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    I replied almost all replies from who has different opinions if you check this thread. But your reply was so absurd;



    If you really read my thread, and check this thing in-game, you will understand me. This kind of blocks so expensive because they are super rare. Even if you want to build a world with them, you can't because nobody sells them! Also are you really accept paying 4wls for 1 Barred Wire Barrier or other new blocks? If you do, probably you don't like to build something in-game..

    Also as you said sometimes there should be expensive Decoration items such as Crystal Tree or Crystal Clock. But if you check the last updates since 2018. Almost all of these new blocks are 1per wls. Is this what you want? Or just i want to ask you this, Do you like to building something in-game? If you do, let us to check your world that you builded it with new blocks..
    I personally love to build but don't have the budget to get all the new blocks but the thing is it's the same as not being able to afford golden angel wings , I won't cry on the forums about it I'll just grind to get enough wls.

    Also the barbed wire is rediculously easy to obtain in half an hour I got like 3 along with 2 sand bags.

    So no my argument isn't absurd you are
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    These chests feel empty. Adding the most basic blocks to them would revitalise them and give a reliable source of them. Specifically, I'm talking about the Castle Blocks & Backgrounds, Manor Sandstones & Wallpapers, etc.

    The decor can stay the same (or very rare rewards).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    To be honest, sometimes i feel like developers making these new items for only support specialist that can spawn any item to their inventory.
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    • While we can't even find 'Shining Block(PAW 2019 Block), Our moderators spawn them to making a world with these blocks.We can't even find more than 5 block even if we find it, it's 3wls EACH, Yes 3wls each!

    • Another example is Dark Castle Stone and Seasonal Clash Blocks. They are too expensive(1per wls) to make a world or anything. For example from me, 4months ago i planned to build a good world with Dark Castle stones and i started to stock them. But sadly in this 4months i found only 40 blocks for 2per wls. Almost all new blocks price like this.
    Regarding this one, it is not an issue if we (meaning Ubisoft staff) use these blocks to showcase to players how these items look like and for us (Ubisoft employee) to use these in-game items as part of our community engagement as long as we are not giving those away, or worse, abusing those items or haphazardly let players take those for free to break the economy. Do note that I work at Ubisoft as Community Manager and I do not just "spawn" items for fun and if it is not part of my work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoRei View Post
    Regarding this one, it is not an issue if we (meaning Ubisoft staff) use these blocks to showcase to players how these items look like and for us (Ubisoft employee) to use these in-game items as part of our community engagement as long as we are not giving those away, or worse, abusing those items or haphazardly let players take those for free to break the economy. Do note that I work at Ubisoft as Community Manager and I do not just "spawn" items for fun and if it is not part of my work.
    Whats the point of them showcasing the blocks to players if they're way to rare and expensive for regular players to build with. You've designed all these new blocks which look good, yet they're either extremely expensive or too hard to obtain (making them expensive..)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoRei View Post
    Regarding this one, it is not an issue if we (meaning Ubisoft staff) use these blocks to showcase to players how these items look like and for us (Ubisoft employee) to use these in-game items as part of our community engagement as long as we are not giving those away, or worse, abusing those items or haphazardly let players take those for free to break the economy. Do note that I work at Ubisoft as Community Manager and I do not just "spawn" items for fun and if it is not part of my work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoRei View Post
    Regarding this one, it is not an issue if we (meaning Ubisoft staff) use these blocks to showcase to players how these items look like and for us (Ubisoft employee) to use these in-game items as part of our community engagement as long as we are not giving those away, or worse, abusing those items or haphazardly let players take those for free to break the economy. Do note that I work at Ubisoft as Community Manager and I do not just "spawn" items for fun and if it is not part of my work.
    There is a misunderstanding, personally i don't have any problem with spawned items or blocks by ubisoft staff. The only point to be mentioned is how extremely expensive or hard to obtain almost all new blocks.

    Also as iiMeowGT stated out, '' Whats the point of them showcasing the blocks to players if they're way to rare and expensive for regular players to build with ''. Almost all kind of blocks from new updates/event is super expensive or hard to obtain, hard to obtain make them super rare and we can't even find more than 50 blocks(Even we find, we can't spend 1-2wls for 1 block). Sometimes i feel like growtopia building part just died because of this. Everyone got bored to build something with 4-5years old blocks. And new blocks have super nice design but they are just so rare and expensive to build something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EerieGt View Post
    I personally love to build but don't have the budget to get all the new blocks but the thing is it's the same as not being able to afford golden angel wings , I won't cry on the forums about it I'll just grind to get enough wls.
    Your forum account created in Feb 2017 and you are probably 3-4years old player. So, while you can't afford to buy new blocks, how you can expect from other players? As you said you love to build something but new items are extremely expensive and rare to buy or build something. Also, blocks and clothes are different, you can get back your wls from clothes by selling them, but you can't do that with blocks.
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    These types of blocks needs to become more common. Worlds aren’t supposed to cost 10+ dls, because that’s what you’re gonna pay if you want a big part of your world for example castle/baroque themed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    To be honest, sometimes i feel like developers making these new items for only support specialist that can spawn any item to their inventory.

    Another unbalanced blocks are Seasonal Clash Blocks, Few months ago i suggested something about this and finally @Nekorei put my suggestion into the 'Community Suggestion'. It was Seasonal Blocks Pack. Also yes i know this: 'Even if your submission made it to Community Suggestion, it does not mean it will be implemented. But this suggestion was very important because of current amount of event. Like Currently There is 3 Summer event, 3 Spring per year... But the problem is that even we have 12 same event for 3months(last year) These blocks was super rare and expensive. Image current price and how rare is this..

    How to fix this problem?
    Solution 0: This for Dark castle Block, just increase amount of block to 35 blocks per reward. Because Wolf Whistle is 10-15wls and you get only 1 reward per whistle.
    Solution 1: Make a pack for Summer Event that include Every single Summer Clash item, This pack going to be 2500 gems and you will get 5 Different Summer Clash Blocks(Here) and this will depends on the rng like other event packs.
    Solution 2: Make pack for Summer Event that include every single Summer Clash item, But this pack will be 10.000 gems and you can get everysingle Clash Blocks from this pack(there is 24 Different Block)

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    Also with this pack, I'm sure that atleast someone would spend realy money on the gems pack. What do you think guys?
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    New Update's blocks price since 2018

    • Each Gross-Out Mutant Kitchen Blocks: 1-2per wls

    • Each PAW 2019 Blocks: 1-2wls each

    • Each Time-Tossed Blocks: 1-2wls each

    • Each Block Party 2 Items : 1-2per wls

    • Each Spring Clash Blocks: 1-4wls each

    • Each Dragon Invasion Blocks: 1-2per wls

    • Each b.O.O Blocks: 1-2wls each

    • Each Role Up! Blocks: 1-5wls each


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    Also I'm waiting since PAW 2019 for making this thread Because i think like, 'Probably they will put this pack into the store in only event days'.. But sadly there is no any pack and There is thousands of example about unbalanced new blocks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lopyhupis View Post
    What about candle wall sconce?
    There are hundreds of blocks that need to buff(2018-2019 blocks). But there's no point to write it if it's going to change. Still no answer from developers
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    Dark castle blocks are not hard to get, i built a friend's main world and gave around 1k stone and 1k bg to techy to make celestemountain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamIm View Post
    Dark castle blocks are not hard to get, i built a friend's main world and gave around 1k stone and 1k bg to techy to make celestemountain.
    http://world.growtopiagame.com/katyalyse.png?at=503705 And http://world.growtopiagame.com/celes....png?at=250491
    I really wonder how many world have you ever seen with Clash blocks themed. Normal or pro players can't afford that much wls for building world. Also you need to wait like 30mins to get 10 blocks in BUYCASTLE. Reward system make them super rare to get and no one want to sell his 10 blocks because it's not worth to waste time...

    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    Tournament blocks same as others, impossible to find tons of them. Current price is 1-2wls each. Tournament Portcullis 20wls each. Current Blocks drop is 1 block per drop i guess, Buff it to 15blocks per drop.

    I don't know if others notice it but Players just stopped building nice worlds because of new blocks price, only few veteran players spending 10-20dls to build few worlds but normal and pro players just stopped building worlds, please rebalance these items items.
    Tournament blocks need rebalance too.
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    32 Days. Still no answer from developers. Please don't ignore this kind of important problems. Players really forgot to biggest part of growtopia, it's building! Most of players still using colored blocks like Red/white/black Blocks, while there is super cool blocks. The problem is we can't get tons blocks because of wrong rewarding system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    32 Days. Still no answer from developers. Please don't ignore this kind of important problems. Players really forgot to biggest part of growtopia, it's building! Most of players still using colored blocks like Red/white/black Blocks, while there is super cool blocks. The problem is we can't get tons blocks because of wrong rewarding system.
    I think its not a good idea to make it easy to obtain
    every thing has a price , as u said that's a cool block which mean it must be hard to obtain, if they make it cheap what do u think?
    its fair to who spending a thousand world lock on it? so just better keep it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minamori View Post
    I think its not a good idea to make it easy to obtain,
    every thing has a price , as u said that's a cool block which mean it must be hard to obtain, if they make it cheap what do u think?
    its fair to who spending a thousand world lock on it? so just better keep it.
    Hey, these items don't have a price. 2-3wls each per blocks is not a good price. Also there is reason to be 2-3wls each per block. They are so rare to get tons blocks. Like if you want to build a good world. You have to spend 200-1000wls. Did you saw any worlds with castle blocks/tournament blocks made by normal players?

    Example from Mutant Kitchen blocks, You need eat atleast 10-15wls worth of food to get 10 Mutant Kitchen Blocks. And these guys don't want to sell their blocks because they think it's not worth the time. Less sellers=expensive blocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    Hey, these items don't have a price. 2-3wls each per blocks is not a good price. Also there is reason to be 2-3wls each per block. They are so rare to get tons blocks. Like if you want to build a good world. You have to spend 200-1000wls. Did you saw any worlds with castle blocks/tournament blocks made by normal players?

    Example from Mutant Kitchen blocks, You need eat atleast 10-15wls worth of food to get 10 Mutant Kitchen Blocks. And these guys don't want to sell their blocks because they think it's not worth the time. Less sellers=expensive blocks.
    Dude, you're naive. These blocks are expensive and there's no problem. If you can't afford to use the blocks use another. If you don't want to use different blocks, then stop complaining and work your way up so you can afford to make a world with these expensive blocks. Using the fact that a "normal player" can't afford to make a world with these blocks is like saying a "normal player" cannot afford a legendary item. Well, NO DUH! They have to work their way up to getting there. Crystal blocks for example are 5 wls each. I've seen full worlds built with them, while many can't afford them. That doesn't mean they should lower the value of those blocks. In a normal economy theres different items that have higher values. It gives player more incentive to try and earn and play the game to be able to afford these blocks.

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    Like he said about the golden angel wings being 80+ dls. The cost of building a world with these blocks is high, and whats the problem? If you build a world with such a high value it shows how much you've accomplished playing this game. What's the difference between this and expensive items?

    If you use the argument that these blocks should be accessible to more players with fewer wls. Then, whats to say they shouldn't make expensive items, legendary items, and anything with high cost more cheaper? There would be no point in playing a game and earning wls if all the blocks and items were easily earned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinlame View Post
    Dude, you're naive. These blocks are expensive and there's no problem. If you can't afford to use the blocks use another. If you don't want to use different blocks, then stop complaining and work your way up so you can afford to make a world with these expensive blocks. Crystal blocks for example are 5 wls each. I've seen full worlds built with them, while many can't afford them. That doesn't mean they should lower the value of those blocks. In a normal economy theres different items that have higher values. It gives player more incentive to try and earn and play the game to be able to afford these blocks.
    First of all, i can afford all of these new blocks to build 30-50dls worth of worlds but.. I'm thinking about other players. Like tournament is a thing for very long time and i want to ask you this, How many worlds you have ever seen that builded with Tournament blocks or Castle Blocks, Mutant Kitchen blocks, Building Blocks Machine Blocks and other new expensive blocks. No one using them because of the price even if they can afford it. There is only very few players that building with new expensive blocks(VERY VERY FEW!). Also Crystal blocks is different, you can just use 1 blocks to make your world good but like for castle blocks, atleast you have to use 50blocks to do something good.

    And about this; ''It gives player more incentive to try and earn and play the game to be able to afford these blocks.'' No one trying to earn wls to afford for new blocks, no one.

    Quote Originally Posted by austinlame View Post
    Like he said about the golden angel wings being 80+ dls. The cost of building a world with these blocks is high, and whats the problem? If you build a world with such a high value it shows how much you've accomplished playing this game. What's the difference between this and expensive items?
    If you use the argument that these blocks should be accessible to more players with fewer wls. Then, whats to say they shouldn't make expensive items, legendary items, and anything with high cost more cheaper? There would be no point in playing a game and earning wls if all the blocks and items were easily earned.
    There is huge difference between clothes and blocks, you can buy and sell the expensive clothes for the same price. Also players goal is like getting devil wings,golden angel, legendary items etc.. Did you saw anyone that say '' My goal is building a world with Castle themed world ''? No, because if you spend 20dls on castle themed world. Most probably you can't get back your 20dls again. Building worlds is just losing world locks and players doesn't like it. Even 1-2dls is important for who doing farm to earn wls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    First of all, i can afford all of these new blocks to build 30-50dls worth of worlds but.. I'm thinking about other players. Like tournament is a thing for very long time and i want to ask you this, How many worlds you have ever seen that builded with Tournament blocks or Castle Blocks, Mutant Kitchen blocks, Building Blocks Machine Blocks and other new expensive blocks. No one using them because of the price even if they can afford it. There is only very few players that building with new expensive blocks(VERY VERY FEW!). Also Crystal blocks is different, you can just use 1 blocks to make your world good but like for castle blocks, atleast you have to use 50blocks to do something good.

    And about this; ''It gives player more incentive to try and earn and play the game to be able to afford these blocks.'' No one trying to earn wls to afford for new blocks, no one.



    There is huge difference between clothes and blocks, you can buy and sell the expensive clothes for the same price. Also players goal is like getting devil wings,golden angel, legendary items etc.. Did you saw anyone that say '' My goal is building a world with Castle themed world ''? No, because if you spend 20dls on castle themed world. Most probably you can't get back your 20dls again. Building worlds is just losing world locks and players doesn't like it. Even 1-2dls is important for who doing farm to earn wls.
    No, there is no difference and yes I have met people who have set goals in building expensive worlds. Getting a legendary item for example the cheapest is like 75 dls (legendary dragon) and it’s untradeable you can’t get your worldlocks back. Yet, people make that their goal.

    Also, people build full worlds with crystal blocks. “People can use 1 block and make their word look good” is just an opinion. I can say that about castle blocks too. It’s an opinion. Some people think you need at least 200 crystal blocks at least to make your word look good.

    Using the argument that they won’t get their worldlocks back is just invalid. People set goals like getting maxed ancestrals and legendary items which are all untradeable. So no there is no difference between worlds and clothes items.
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