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    Quote Originally Posted by just one growtopian View Post
    Using the "But I got hacked" card isn't really viable anymore. There are many great tools such as the 2FA which will make your account really hard to breach. It's your account and your responsibility. If you let some random person access your account that doesn't free you of the responsibility.

    Getting less severe punishment just because you have used time and effort to get where you are would be really stupid. You break the rules, you suffer the consequences.

    I really haven't seen a valid argument on why permanent bans should be removed. It's not that hard to follow the rules. Of course if you actually were innocent ("getting hacked" doesnt make you) then you actually deserve to be unbanned.

    Just don't break the rules and everything will be fine. Why is that so hard?
    People break the rules all the time.
    Permanent ban is quite harsh if you thought of it.

    A long ban duration would actually help you reflect on the things you have done, unlike a permanent ban. You'd simply just start to hate more than reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoRei View Post
    Heya! We do understand it can get really frustrating when you get banned and we are definitely open to re-investigating and re-evaluating your punishment provided that we find enough proof through our investigations.

    To ease everyone's mind allow me to clarify some points mentioned:
    1. If you believe that you were banned unjustly or you want submit a ban appeal, you can report such incidents to us and we'll look into it carefully and then handle it. Here is how to submit a ban appeal:
    https://support.ubi.com/en-AU/Faqs/0...count-sanction

    "In the event you genuinely feel the ban is not justified, please LET US KNOW - we will be happy to investigate further."

    2. If you believe that a certain moderator is misbehaving feel free to report the moderator to us together with details and if there is a proof include that as well. We will look investigate and act on it if necessary.


    Also, thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts regarding this concern. I shall mention your insights about this to the team and see if this is something that we can take into consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyeosi View Post
    People break the rules all the time.
    Permanent ban is quite harsh if you thought of it.

    A long ban duration would actually help you reflect on the things you have done, unlike a permanent ban. You'd simply just start to hate more than reflect.
    So how long would the ban be? 6 months? 1 year?

    These bans forced people to restart I kind of feel am I wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Jothealpha View Post
    So how long would the ban be? 6 months? 1 year?

    These bans forced people to restart I kind of feel am I wrong?
    its up to ubisoft if they want to consider this idea and how the new punishment system will be. Its just the idea of giving people a 2nd chance for breaking a rule but they will still be punished but with a less harsh punishment than suspension. However, fraudulent activities and spammers should given a suspension. Others, depending on the severity of their cause. They will be given really long punishments such as 180/360/730 day bans which will fortunately teach them a lesson. However, if they repeat a breakage of a rule, they should be suspended without any further chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoRei View Post
    Heya! We do understand it can get really frustrating when you get banned and we are definitely open to re-investigating and re-evaluating your punishment provided that we find enough proof through our investigations.

    To ease everyone's mind allow me to clarify some points mentioned:
    1. If you believe that you were banned unjustly or you want submit a ban appeal, you can report such incidents to us and we'll look into it carefully and then handle it. Here is how to submit a ban appeal:
    https://support.ubi.com/en-AU/Faqs/0...count-sanction

    "In the event you genuinely feel the ban is not justified, please LET US KNOW - we will be happy to investigate further."

    2. If you believe that a certain moderator is misbehaving feel free to report the moderator to us together with details and if there is a proof include that as well. We will look investigate and act on it if necessary.


    Also, thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts regarding this concern. I shall mention your insights about this to the team and see if this is something that we can take into consideration.
    nice cos I got banned over worrying about my missing items and asking support for assistance
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    Quote Originally Posted by just one growtopian View Post
    Using the "But I got hacked" card isn't really viable anymore. There are many great tools such as the 2FA which will make your account really hard to breach. It's your account and your responsibility. If you let some random person access your account that doesn't free you of the responsibility.

    Getting less severe punishment just because you have used time and effort to get where you are would be really stupid. You break the rules, you suffer the consequences.

    I really haven't seen a valid argument on why permanent bans should be removed. It's not that hard to follow the rules. Of course if you actually were innocent ("getting hacked" doesnt make you) then you actually deserve to be unbanned.

    Just don't break the rules and everything will be fine. Why is that so hard?
    You are perfect ok. But rest of us are humans and we actually do stupid mistakes sometimes. But perfect ppl just can't understand normal ppl so i understand that you can't see this. Hope that if you ever make mistake in your life, you wont get second chance, then we can talk about this. Ok? Until that, i know that you can't see bigger picture. I'm old and i have screwed up in my life few times for real and here i am. I'm better version of myself cause of screw ups. Now i understand that i have 0 rights to judge ppl by their mistakes. No one makes mistakes by purpose. Or most of us wont do. There is just moments when we wont think clear and in those moments, there is risk that we do stupid mistakes. Cause we are after all, humans, just humans nothing more than that. And humans aren't ever perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezereal View Post
    nice cos I got banned over worrying about my missing items and asking support for assistance
    That's very strange. A few months ago, I lost a thingamabob and started panicking and asked support for help if they could find where I placed it. I did sound pretty panicky but they stilled told me where I last dropped it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leqend of Legend View Post
    That's very strange. A few months ago, I lost a thingamabob and started panicking and asked support for help if they could find where I placed it. I did sound pretty panicky but they stilled told me where I last dropped it.
    basically my floating laser grids in my farm gone missing in hours and I'm pretty sure they were there the last time I was awake. And they said I made a false claim lololol
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    They Have Perma Banned Me Because I Did Sb Sell Pro Server 890 Dls Lol!
    Even A Joke Can Ban You I Did Not Say Sell Pro Server For 890 Dollar I Said 890 Dls
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    And The Support Said That Im Selling Private Servers For Real Money
    Could You Believe That Guys
    And They Wont Refund All My Purchases
    Growtopia Take Our Money And They Will Ban You Without Any Possible Reason They Just Keep The Scammers To Handle The Game
    And If Someone Play Normaly They Will Ban Him Without Reason

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    Totaly agree with you, alot of players who have spent tons of hours on this game (Including me) loose so much time and effort. I got banned for spamming which i regret and im not even welcome to play this game anymore

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    I do not agree with you and the poll.

    1. The poll is just plain bias, look a 12yr old can tell that your rooting for the people that got perma banned.

    2. Some growtopians are deemed too harmful and should remain perma banned. DLs seller, and those people that repeat offences multiple times.

    3. I would only agree that some punishments are too far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoRei View Post
    Heya! We do understand it can get really frustrating when you get banned and we are definitely open to re-investigating and re-evaluating your punishment provided that we find enough proof through our investigations.

    To ease everyone's mind allow me to clarify some points mentioned:
    1. If you believe that you were banned unjustly or you want submit a ban appeal, you can report such incidents to us and we'll look into it carefully and then handle it. Here is how to submit a ban appeal:
    https://support.ubi.com/en-AU/Faqs/0...count-sanction

    "In the event you genuinely feel the ban is not justified, please LET US KNOW - we will be happy to investigate further."

    2. If you believe that a certain moderator is misbehaving feel free to report the moderator to us together with details and if there is a proof include that as well. We will look investigate and act on it if necessary.


    Also, thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts regarding this concern. I shall mention your insights about this to the team and see if this is something that we can take into consideration.
    " If you believe that you were banned unjustly or you want submit a ban appeal, you can report such incidents to us and we'll look into it carefully and then handle it. Here is how to submit a ban appeal" - Why everyone KEEP saying that? That doesn't help you. Only what u will get from the support is an auto-reply and then they keep closing the cases about this issue. We need newS support specialist, who really know how to do this job, not a random guys without any real experiences. That's just sad. I've sent like 5mails to support and everytime i have gotten the same reply from them, they doesn't even answer to my questions, unprofessional. WE NEED NEW SUPPORT SPECIALISTS! And yes, permanently bans could get revomed, cuz they ruining the game ( Only spammers, scasmmers, hackers deserves a suspension)

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    Putting IAP fraud and other serious stuff aside, I would rather have a dead game over a corrupt one.

    Also, with that poll, no one will root for you. It's not very 'nice' and most importantly, it's a public poll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe View Post
    You are perfect ok. But rest of us are humans and we actually do stupid mistakes sometimes. But perfect ppl just can't understand normal ppl so i understand that you can't see this. Hope that if you ever make mistake in your life, you wont get second chance, then we can talk about this. Ok? Until that, i know that you can't see bigger picture. I'm old and i have screwed up in my life few times for real and here i am. I'm better version of myself cause of screw ups. Now i understand that i have 0 rights to judge ppl by their mistakes. No one makes mistakes by purpose. Or most of us wont do. There is just moments when we wont think clear and in those moments, there is risk that we do stupid mistakes. Cause we are after all, humans, just humans nothing more than that. And humans aren't ever perfect.
    Yes, people make mistakes. That's why you won't get perma banned for simply making a mistake. If you do something so serious that you get perma banned then you probably deserve it.

    If you knowingly hack, play casino, abuse glitches or such then that's not a mistake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyeosi View Post
    People break the rules all the time.
    Permanent ban is quite harsh if you thought of it.

    A long ban duration would actually help you reflect on the things you have done, unlike a permanent ban. You'd simply just start to hate more than reflect.
    I wish we lived in a fairytale world like that where everyone would just simply "reflect on the things they have done." In reality, it just won't go like that. People will just keep breaking the rules as long as they are allowed to. Permanent ban is a good way to get rid of toxic people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just one growtopian View Post
    Yes, people make mistakes. That's why you won't get perma banned for simply making a mistake. If you do something so serious that you get perma banned then you probably deserve it.

    If you knowingly hack, play casino, abuse glitches or such then that's not a mistake.
    over year ago i saw how some dude made mistake. He said in some world, buy nudes 9999wl or maybe said it in sb can't remember. Of course it was joke but he got perma ban. I think cases like his, don't deserve perma. Also some got perma cause said i'm a mod or something. I can't agree with perma bans in case like these. They deserve ban yes, but not perma. Why not even make then 730 days if feel that those were worst jokes ever? Why perma? Can't just accept this. long bans are more effective for best interest of game for real than perma bans. Only really really bad stuff deserve perma like frauds and dls sellers and csn hosts+spammers. Game would get also less social media drama, if there would be more normal even long bans than perma bans. I still bet that most of our players could learn their lesson in 180-730 days. Why wouldn't they? If they love this game as they do, they wont come back and make same mistake and get new ban. If we assume that they do, then we assume that they are actually extremely stupid. I think this game has much smart kids and teens. So i really trust on them. I'm sure that way over 50% wont make same mistakes ever again after 180 day ban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe View Post
    over year ago i saw how some dude made mistake. He said in some world, buy nudes 9999wl or maybe said it in sb can't remember. Of course it was joke but he got perma ban. I think cases like his, don't deserve perma. Also some got perma cause said i'm a mod or something. I can't agree with perma bans in case like these. They deserve ban yes, but not perma. Why not even make then 730 days if feel that those were worst jokes ever? Why perma? Can't just accept this. long bans are more effective for best interest of game for real than perma bans. Only really really bad stuff deserve perma like frauds and dls sellers and csn hosts+spammers. Game would get also less social media drama, if there would be more normal even long bans than perma bans. I still bet that most of our players could learn their lesson in 180-730 days. Why wouldn't they? If they love this game as they do, they wont come back and make same mistake and get new ban. If we assume that they do, then we assume that they are actually extremely stupid. I think this game has much smart kids and teens. So i really trust on them. I'm sure that way over 50% wont make same mistakes ever again after 180 day ban.
    Well, I do believe that a perma ban was pretty extreme in those cases but I don't know the full details so I can't really give a full opinion on those.

    And where'd you get that 50% from? It's just a known fact that people who knowingly break rules are more likely to do so again.

    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe View Post
    I think this game has much smart kids and teens.
    lol you clearly don't know this community at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe View Post
    ithink this game has much smart kids and teens. So i really trust on them. I'm sure that way over 50% wont make same mistakes ever again after 180 day ban.
    Yes, this game has a lot of smart kids and teens, but a thousand times more rulebreakers who have never been thought not to break the rules.

    To be honest, no one in this thread (Except the moderators/ubistaff) know the full details, so I don't think it's even debatable.

    I'd rather see people get suspended for hosting a dropgame, than to see them get unpunished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just one growtopian View Post
    Well, I do believe that a perma ban was pretty extreme in those cases but I don't know the full details so I can't really give a full opinion on those.

    And where'd you get that 50% from? It's just a known fact that people who knowingly break rules are more likely to do so again.


    lol you clearly don't know this community at all
    it was example. Most of you underestimate others. You judge ppl by one bad action. I never do that. Guess what. One of my friend has actually killed woman. And i judge his action yes, but i don't judge him by his action. He is still my friend. Well i didn't know him at the time when he killed that woman, i learned know him 20 years later, but still. Ik most of ppl just would say that no, i wont even talk with you cause of your past, but not me. I asked why he did it. We talked about it and then i left that in past. So yes. I'm person who actually give second chances even for them, who made worst possible action in life. Under all their behavior, they are still humans, they are someones kids, husbands, wives or what ever. They are humans. So i strongly think that ppl can change. He never killed anyone else. He was in prison many years and when we met, he was my work friend.

    So, if human, who murdered another human (yes he was in prison cause of 2nd degree murder), could change, do you think that player who broke some gt rule, can't change? I can actually open my mind and heart to ppl, who has screwed up in their past. I can somehow understand why they did it even when i can't truly understand their actions. So i'm queen of second chances lmao
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    Even if you're permabanned, it's not the end of the world.
    Go find another video game to play.

    And it's possible to never been punished.
    I've been in game and on forums since 2015.
    Nothing's ever happened to me. I don't call it luck.
    I call it obedience to rules.

    I'll assure y'all that nothing will happen as long as you play your part correctly.
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    >”I am evil.I want everyone to be deleted”/“No more permanent deletion”
    Well guess I’m evil.
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