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    Quote Originally Posted by Leqend of Legend View Post
    I don't think you should speak for people who claim they got ban innocently without any proof lol,some of those bans are well deserved
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrects View Post
    Okay then. No use talking to someone who apparently thinks they know everything
    No use talking to someone who thinks they have the rights to break the rules for dedicating their life to a game.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquify View Post
    I don't think you should speak for people who claim they got ban innocently without any proof lol,some of those bans are well deserved
    Well, i think i should because i want to take a stand for those who got suspended. I want to change things instead of doing nothing. I want to help innocent people and some of which are my friends. Even if you think no one is innocent, you should be more open minded. There is a huger side of the game you have no idea about.
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    Theres a glitch where if someone does a iap fraud and gives u any item the person got from it you will get suspended too even if you do not know the person and when contacting dev about it they will only reply once saying that they will no longer reply which means theres nothing you could do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leqend of Legend View Post
    Well, i think i should because i want to take a stand for those who got suspended. I want to change things instead of doing nothing. I want to help innocent people and some of which are my friends. Even if you think no one is innocent, you should be more open minded. There is a huger side of the game you have no idea about.
    Take note,you're standing up for people who,some you literally don't know and might just told you something which is just a one sided story. I don't think you can make a change with only one sided stories. We can't be open minded about the rules,they're there for a reason and you either obey it or get out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquify View Post
    Take note,you're standing up for people who,some you literally don't know and might just told you something which is just a one sided story. I don't think you can make a change with only one sided stories. We can't be open minded about the rules,they're there for a reason and you either obey it or get out
    I actually empathize with them. They arnt just "strangers" to me. They dm me, begging me for help, they wish me luck and also hope ubisoft will help us and bring about a positive change. I can sense the hardship and sadness they are facing, i sympathize with them. (SOUNDS CRINGE SRY) I just want to help everyone out and bring a change to the game which I have been with for many years.
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    It's easier to avoid a suspension than to get it. Usually who has gotten a suspension has done something REALLY bad to get to that position.

    You see, moderators aren't biased nor they hold a grudge against anyone. If you get banned and/or suspended it means you've done something against the rules to get to that position, whether it's as small as playing around with visual bugs to severe hacking, there's no grey area in gtetting banned, it's either banned or innocent. A moderator has better things to do than ban a person who doesn't deserve it. Past warnings/punishments take count regarding your case(s).

    I've been in both perspectives as a moderator and as a player, and in my entire career I haven't seen a single ban that has been given out falsely. I mean like okay maybe out of 1000 people that say they are innocent, most likely 3 or 4 are INDEED innocent, and those people lose their chances on becoming unsuspended/unbanned because those 997 might use the "i've been banned falsely by mod I didn't do nothing wrong etc" too much to the point that it gets ignored since most outcomes are the same, they lie. And those 3 who actually didn't lie might get ignored since it's the same story over and over.

    Whenever you get banned and you know it's justified, please don't lie your way to get unbanned since it'll get you nowhere and that "lie" might be an actual scenario regarding another user and that user might lose his/her chance onto getting unbanned cause of you trying to manipulate the support specialist with that lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leqend of Legend View Post
    Does super broadcasting a NSFW content 2 word phrase as a joke deserve a permanent ban?
    Does boosting in 1 tournament deserve a permanent ban?
    Does some scamming/ drop game deserve a permanent ban? (Sometimes given suspensions)
    Does autoclicking/ auto farming for the very first time deserve a permanent ban? (or even wrongly accused)
    Does sharing account with your friend or cousin with intentions of promoting the game do so much harm deserve a permanent ban?
    Does hosting a roullete game which does not involve betting deserve a permanent ban?
    Does involving in a drama through SBs deserve a permanent ban?
    Does pretending to be a mod AS A JOKE deserve a permanent ban?

    Not to mention, some of the reasons for their bans could even be falsely accused. They COULD be innocent.

    These acts are definietly wrong, which i do not disagree but the extent to which they are punished through a suspension is TOO HARSH
    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and YES.

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    For me, it shouldn't be removed. Most online games and sites have permanent bans, there's a reason why it's there. Removing it is not the way, a better solution to it is to give each rule a specific punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenkamees View Post
    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and YES.

    Don't break the rules!
    I understand your loyalty to rules and that you are a PERFECT person. however, people make mistakes whether you like it or not. they deserve punishments for the mistakes they made. They deserve very long punishments for them to reflext on what they did. Long enough to teach them a lesson to never repeat it such as a 1 year/ 2 year ban. Can't people who commit none fraudulent/ hacking/ spamming/ csn hosting crimes, not be completely removed from the game but rather a really long ban that will teach them a lesson they will never forget?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimIzPro View Post
    For me, it shouldn't be removed. Most online games and sites have permanent bans, there's a reason why it's there. Removing it is not the way, a better solution to it is to give each rule a specific punishment.
    yes this is what i am justifying. Sorry about the poll. THERE WILL BE SUSPENSIONS but those are reserved for extremely serious crimes such as IAP fruads/ spammers/ csn host/ exploiting/ etc.. Less serious crimes which are still deemed to be bad offences should be given very long bans as stated. But, if the crime is commited again even after their long ban is removed, they will be given a suspension.
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    Once a cheater, always a cheater.
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    [QUOTE=Leqend of Legend;4110635]I understand your loyalty to rules and that you are a PERFECT person. however, people make mistakes whether you like it or not. they deserve punishments for the mistakes they made. They deserve very long punishments for them to reflext on what they did. Long enough to teach them a lesson to never repeat it such as a 1 year/ 2 year ban. Can't people who commit none fraudulent/ hacking/ spamming/ csn hosting crimes, not be completely removed from the game but rather a really long ban that will teach them a lesson they will never forget?

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    A mistake is oh I ran into your pile of gems sorry bro!
    Not breaking obviously rules set.
    I'm sorry they should have taken stance in the first place, there is no detraction of crime if there is small punishment it's been proven over the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenkamees View Post
    Once a cheater, always a cheater.
    Now that's what some of the people in the society is.

    It's just like crimes but if the criminal is willing to change for the better, and ppl just don't accept him as they think he will always be a criminal, he will turn back to crime in order to work for a living so......

    Growtopia is a bit different. Some violations that are serious sometimes aren't detected so these people continue to do them. Sometimes there is too less people (1-0) being punished (lightly/heavily) everyday and when there's a ban, it comes in huge waves. So this shows to us that mods don't rely ban ppl everyday.

    U see the news, ppl being arrested and punished. U don't see that in Growtopia. Maybe that's why ppl think if they avoid the banning days, they can casually continue breaking the rules undisturbed. So mods should actually start having shifts when there will be at least a mod checking through the game everyday to see if anyone role the rules and punish them.

    But it's good to not see so ppl getting banned. But permanent ban is good but bad for the game in terms of players. Growtopia is lacking players, and if the player count drops, idk what's going to happen. So Maybe a permanent ban is a bit too harsh but there are some exceptions like auto farming or over scamming
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    I don't know if someone else brought up the same points I will (I was too lazy to read all the replies) :3

    In my opinion, the permanent ban should not be removed, because its only given to most serious rule-breakers, IAP Fraud for example. Also about the point someone made that from 1000 suspended people about 3-5 haven't done anything is most likely right. But thats also in real life. Innocent people get jailed, so how is Growtopis supposed to stop something people in rl cant stop either? Also about the poll, you should only have options Yes / No. People are free to voice their own opinions and you shouldn't judge them... well maybe sometimes depending on the case... but you made picking the other option in the poll which you did not agree with "bad" by putting "yes i want everyone to be deleted". You're trying to manipulate other people to be on your side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leqend of Legend View Post
    Well i guess, it is pretty easy to simply grow out of the game and do something meaningful. However, some people invested countless hours and effort on the game.
    Countless hours? You used bots to farm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CsnHacker View Post
    I couldnt agree more. Getting suspended really is too harsh of a punishment for minor acts.
    I agree. I was there when one of my friends got suspended for locking a world with dirt swastikas. However, OP got suspended after being caught autofarming with alts. That's well-deserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakum View Post
    Countless hours? You used bots to farm!

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    I agree. I was there when one of my friends got suspended for locking a world with dirt swastikas. However, OP got suspended after being caught autofarming with alts. That's well-deserved.
    ME? I didnt even get suspended for using BOTS and the bots for AUTOFARMING.
    The point of this the is not COMPLETELY getting rid of suspensions but only using it in a less harsh manner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedaki View Post
    I don't know if someone else brought up the same points I will (I was too lazy to read all the replies) :3

    In my opinion, the permanent ban should not be removed, because its only given to most serious rule-breakers, IAP Fraud for example. Also about the point someone made that from 1000 suspended people about 3-5 haven't done anything is most likely right. But thats also in real life. Innocent people get jailed, so how is Growtopis supposed to stop something people in rl cant stop either? Also about the poll, you should only have options Yes / No. People are free to voice their own opinions and you shouldn't judge them... well maybe sometimes depending on the case... but you made picking the other option in the poll which you did not agree with "bad" by putting "yes i want everyone to be deleted". You're trying to manipulate other people to be on your side.
    My bad on the poll. Moreover it is actually wrong and i cant change it. Suspensions will still be there but used less harshly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leqend of Legend View Post
    ME? I didnt even get suspended for using BOTS and the bots for AUTOFARMING.
    The point of this the is not COMPLETELY getting rid of suspensions but only using it in a less harsh manner

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    My bad on the poll. Moreover it is actually wrong and i cant change it. Suspensions will still be there but used less harshly
    In this one statement you have literally, and completely undermined your entire argument, by using bots you SHOULD have been permanently banned. Auto-farming seriously Hurts the in game economy, what you did harmed other people, by autofarming you were incredibly selfish and hurt other people who were trying to farm normally since you lowered the price of gems by autofarming. All suspensions should hold their current position, a suspension is a harsh punishment for a harsh crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenkamees View Post
    Once a cheater, always a cheater.
    Personally from my experience this is 90% True. People will only change if they are explicitly told too by a IRL figure of power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lopyhupis View Post
    In this one statement you have literally, and completely undermined your entire argument, by using bots you SHOULD have been permanently banned. Auto-farming seriously Hurts the in game economy, what you did harmed other people, by autofarming you were incredibly selfish and hurt other people who were trying to farm normally since you lowered the price of gems by autofarming. All suspensions should hold their current position, a suspension is a harsh punishment for a harsh crime.
    How many times do you need to know my ban was not for auto farming lmao? Why do u just want to justify your one main point but not look at the 100s of other bans which are unfair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leqend of Legend View Post
    I have compiled various players' reasons for being suspended and their replies and experiences were overwhelming. But heres a few of them which i took. I would like to justify that some of them had admitted that what they did was wrong but they showed remorse for doing it. Many claimed to be banned for no reason and some were innocent. Once again, I have no idea if what they said is true as people can lie to show their innocence, but heres what they said and ive summarised it.

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    Player- banned as mods thought he was midding for an account
    Player- banned for possessing a duped magplant
    Player- banned for spamming and he claims it to be an accident
    Player- banned for selling a thingamabob to a level 1 player and then realised there was a diamond lock glitch and got banned for possessing glitched dls
    Player- banned for being an admin of a casino (did it knowingly but he said it was his brother who sabotaged the account)
    Player(This happens to be my friend)- banned for receiving an item from a phisher(hacker) and mods thought she was the hacker
    Player- banned but didnt do anything
    Player- banned for being a hacker very very long ago (1 year) and then gets banned for that 1 year later
    Player- banned for owning a free bfg world and someone autofarmed in his bfg and he had to get suspended for something he didnt even do wrong
    Player- banned for 60 days and then changed to suspension
    Player- banned for spacebar method-punching and watching youtube at same time, accused of autoclick
    Player- banned and does not know why. Support said they will ignore him
    Player- banned for joking about selling nudes (in chat)
    Player- banned and the email was changed (got hacked)
    Player ( my friend)- banned for hosting a roulette based simon says without any involvement of betting
    Player- banned for finding out a wolf whistle glitch and then doing a good deed by reporting the glitch
    Player- banned for abusive language against haters
    Player- banned because his friend lied to him, tricked him and got him suspended by building a casino and made him admin. This got him banned as well
    Player- banned for telling people about a new game and teaching them how it works. Says ubsioft thought he was forcing people to download it and deter them from playing gt.
    Player- banned for autofarming for the first time ever. He regrets doing it and wants a 2nd chance. All his friends also quit for him as he couldnt play
    Player- banned as his admin friend linked his world to a casino to sabotage him
    Player- banned for being AFK in a world and he doesnt know what happened
    Player- banned and doesnt know why he is suspended
    Player- banned for auto for first time and regrets
    Player- banned due to a glitch (gravity, portal, lava) and auto banned
    Player- banned for spacebar punch while doing soemthing else on PC
    Player- banned as his friend was suspended for autofarm and his friend account was linked to his email. Thus, he also got suspended on his account due to his device
    Player- banned for using the word "rape" in a SB
    Player- banned for "ban evading" as she used same wifi as her brother who got banned
    Player- banned for getting hacked and mod perma suspended him ?????
    Player- banned for no reason
    Player- banned for SBing sexual things
    Player- banned for being admin of a BFG and someone built a casino so he suffered
    Player- banned SBing "im a mod" when he meant "mood" instead of "mod". (Obviously hes lying but meant it as a joke)
    Player- banned for "hanging out" with hacker


    Once again, these are just a few of the experiences of people who are banned and there isnt any proof to justify if they are lying or saying the truth. What some of them did is truly wrong, some were innocent. However, they deserve a second chance except for those who are casino owners/ spammers/ hackers/ IAP frauds/ Glitch exploiters
    All of these suspensions were legitimate, you realize that you can’t just take a persons word that they are innocent right? All of these bans were 100% justified, Oh you say people can change? Yeah people can change, they can change the games they play and bring their toxicity somewhere else.
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    once again, i would like to note that mostly everyone who is reading the forums are players who are not banned. Yall might not be able to empathize with those who are banned especially for unfair reasons. Those who are banned are unable to share their experience and it is really hard for me to voice out all their thoughts without much support.
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