Just going to chime in quick (didn’t get a chance to read everything) to provide something for you guys to think about.
1) Mods/Ubistaff members do not punish innocent people. Stop saying it, if it happens by accident we always correct it. At no point is it beneficial for us to ban innocent players who have done nothing wrong.
2) I recognize a lot of the ban situations you have mentioned. A lot of what you players are being told is far from the truth. There’s a lot more that goes into these permanent bans.
3) Permanent bans are very acceptable for a variety of cases. Autofarming, phishing, casino owners and so forth are all generally involved in the selling of items for money (which is also illegal). Why would we want to give these people a second chance to redeem themselves? We need to ensure these things aren’t occurring or items can’t be transferred to other accounts in the future. Keep in mind this is a small fraction of things we permaban for.
Last edited by Ottowo; 09-22-2019 at 06:43 PM.
I agree. My friend got permanently suspended for BCing something about nudes. He had 8 dls on his account and played for 1.5+ years. I don't think its fair.
Everything has changed now if you are not aware. Autoclicking/farming even for first time Is instant suspension.
Pretending to be a mod even as a joke results in a suspension
Causing drama IN Sbs is suspension
Almost everything is a suspensuon
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I know it's a really huge change to growtopia if the idea does get implemented but yet also a very SLIM chance. Ubisoft might not even care about it as it is too much to prepare for. However, it will still bring a change to the game.
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We definitely understand that some of the reasons for perma ban is due to people harming the game. However, some people who get suspended for other reasons should just get a very long ban for whatever wrong they did. I'm sure they will change. A person who caused drama/ a scammer/ person willing to be a mod/ auto farmer will be willing to change after their very long ban . Suspension are too harsh and we alredy lost a huge portion of the community
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No. You want play the game, you abide by the rules. First time or not, nobody should be allowed to break the rules. Everyone has the same set of rules, either you follow it or you don’t. Which means every gets equal amount of punishments.
Autofarming is obviously illegal. It surprises me how many players who got banned because of this, claimed it to be false banned even though they knew they were in the wrong. Now just deal with your suspension and move on.
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I’ve been playing for 5 years now. By your logic, I’m allowed to bc inappropriate things and not get banned. So what you played this Long? If you’ve been playing THIS Long, you should know of the DO’s and DONT’s of the game.
I keep very up to date on recent events, also all of these “Suspension arguments have existed since the beginning of growtopia, and the policies have worked all this time, Don’t fix if it ain’t broke.
FYI ur wrong, causing drama in sbs does not result in a perma ban unless it was a SERIOUS OFFENCE, eg fake moderator sites, NSFW etc, also I did do some more research into the autofarming aurgument, the suspension for auto farmers is “It depends” if a person has been auto farming for long periods of time the account is suspended, for short periods of time EG 1day, it can be 365. ALL AUTO FARMER SUSPENSIONS ARE 100% JUSTIFIED, ALL AUTOFARMERS ARE PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND DOUBT, Also having, I AM EVIL I WANT EVERYONE TO BE DELETED, as the pole is unfair it should be, these two choices,
Yes Pernament Suspensions (List Why)
No permanent Suspensions (List Why)
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I think Ottowo sums it up pretty nice..
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No just no, the reason perma ban is dished out is so that the illegally obtained items cannot be sold for real money, And in the case with sb bans, this is to keep the community safe for the large young audience this game serves.
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Yes exactly, to play a game you must abide by the rules, for example in soccer, you can’t just field tackle a player rugby style, no you get a red card and your out... SAME GOES WITH THIS GAME.
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Thanks for the above. These are useful checks and balances and it does help allay some fears. It is important for the appeal process and the independent monitoring process of the moderators to work to build more trust in the system. As mentioned previously, those with social platforms are able to voice their unhappiness over the bans and will be heard (although it is from their perspective). Those without, will more importantly, now be able to send it directly to GT.
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You seem to state this as a “brand new thing” but this “ban appeal aspect” has existed for a very long time, ever since bans were necessary, in fact ban appeals have always been a thing, people often refuse to accept its existence since often their ban is justified, and should be permanent.
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I have a few points I would like to make. We have no way to actually verify why a person was suspended. They can tell you thier version of events. You can tell us thier version of events. None of us can convince Ubisoft to let us look at a players logs to confirm anything. So making an argument as to why a person was suspended and how fair it was is fruitless. You can't fact check anything. All you can do is take a persons word on a story then expect other people to take your word without any way to prove anything.
A fear of the game dying is not a good reason to let people break rules and avoid appropriate actions taken against them. The game surviving in reality is based on players spending money. I would assume strongly that Ubisoft was more interested in how many players were spending money over how many players were actually playing when they purchased Growtopia.
If your that worried about the game dying you should go spend money. When the income dries up the game will die.
Giving someone a 2nd chance doesn't mean you get away with committing a crime. You will still receive a punishment such as a really long 360/720 ban, but not bring completely suspended. However, even after being given a chance and you repeat ur mistake, then you deserve a suspension.
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I think at least every action what is just a words, should get just long ban. I said million times already, we don't want short bans here, we want 180-730 days bans what will end after is done. And we don't support dl sellers and csn hosts or iap fraud. Those deserve 100% suspension. But almost every other action than those, deserve second chance. Even if you say racist stuff, you deserve second chance, cause ppl sometimes do mistakes and after long ban they wont come back and say "indog" or any other stuff again. Why would they bother come back and just take another ban?
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Please do understand that this suggestion is not REMOVING THE IDEA OF SUSPENSIONS. That will ruin the game and create havoc. However, some of the players who have committed less severe crimes depending on the severity of course. iap frauds, spamming, casino hosting, exploition should lead to a direction suspension. Other reasons should have a punishment less severe than a suspension but still a harsh punishment in way such as a very long ban. I'm sure the person will learn their lesson and not make a repeat of their mistake.
I just made an Instagram post on my ig to gather support from banned players. They have commented several reasons why they were banned and some saying they got banned from glitches.
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Please... we all know the reason why you created this thread was cause you got banned for autofarming. Just so you know, autofarmers are much more harmful to the community than hackers, scammers, casino hosts and spammers. So to think about it, you did very well deserve your suspension and so are the other famous players who used autoclicker too.
He isn't the only one banned, you know. I know a few people who didn't have a chance to get to fight for a successful appeal and their ban reasons are extremely stupid
Being suspended isn't fun at all if you enjoy the game a lot. I believe a few of suspended players should actually be given a second chance if they shown change. After all, we have so many moderators right now, if a few of them get a second chance and they somehow manage to screw it up again, it won't be that hard to ban them again
Since i'm suspended that's all i'm going to say, there's a few points I agree and some I disagree, but I hope some changes could be done :P
Also, why can't people appeal 2 year old suspensions?
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this is entre thread is basically trying to say that we should give others a 2nd chance because they didn't bother to read or obey the rules
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I have compiled various players' reasons for being suspended and their replies and experiences were overwhelming. But heres a few of them which i took. I would like to justify that some of them had admitted that what they did was wrong but they showed remorse for doing it. Many claimed to be banned for no reason and some were innocent. Once again, I have no idea if what they said is true as people can lie to show their innocence, but heres what they said and ive summarised it.
Player- banned as mods thought he was midding for an account
Player- banned for possessing a duped magplant
Player- banned for spamming and he claims it to be an accident
Player- banned for selling a thingamabob to a level 1 player and then realised there was a diamond lock glitch and got banned for possessing glitched dls
Player- banned for being an admin of a casino (did it knowingly but he said it was his brother who sabotaged the account)
Player(This happens to be my friend)- banned for receiving an item from a phisher(hacker) and mods thought she was the hacker
Player- banned but didnt do anything
Player- banned for being a hacker very very long ago (1 year) and then gets banned for that 1 year later
Player- banned for owning a free bfg world and someone autofarmed in his bfg and he had to get suspended for something he didnt even do wrong
Player- banned for 60 days and then changed to suspension
Player- banned for spacebar method-punching and watching youtube at same time, accused of autoclick
Player- banned and does not know why. Support said they will ignore him
Player- banned for joking about selling nudes (in chat)
Player- banned and the email was changed (got hacked)
Player ( my friend)- banned for hosting a roulette based simon says without any involvement of betting
Player- banned for finding out a wolf whistle glitch and then doing a good deed by reporting the glitch
Player- banned for abusive language against haters
Player- banned because his friend lied to him, tricked him and got him suspended by building a casino and made him admin. This got him banned as well
Player- banned for telling people about a new game and teaching them how it works. Says ubsioft thought he was forcing people to download it and deter them from playing gt.
Player- banned for autofarming for the first time ever. He regrets doing it and wants a 2nd chance. All his friends also quit for him as he couldnt play
Player- banned as his admin friend linked his world to a casino to sabotage him
Player- banned for being AFK in a world and he doesnt know what happened
Player- banned and doesnt know why he is suspended
Player- banned for auto for first time and regrets
Player- banned due to a glitch (gravity, portal, lava) and auto banned
Player- banned for spacebar punch while doing soemthing else on PC
Player- banned as his friend was suspended for autofarm and his friend account was linked to his email. Thus, he also got suspended on his account due to his device
Player- banned for using the word "rape" in a SB
Player- banned for "ban evading" as she used same wifi as her brother who got banned
Player- banned for getting hacked and mod perma suspended him ?????
Player- banned for no reason
Player- banned for SBing sexual things
Player- banned for being admin of a BFG and someone built a casino so he suffered
Player- banned SBing "im a mod" when he meant "mood" instead of "mod". (Obviously hes lying but meant it as a joke)
Player- banned for "hanging out" with hacker
Once again, these are just a few of the experiences of people who are banned and there isnt any proof to justify if they are lying or saying the truth. What some of them did is truly wrong, some were innocent. However, they deserve a second chance except for those who are casino owners/ spammers/ hackers/ IAP frauds/ Glitch exploiters
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Stupid reasons? It only sounds stupid because the player themselves explained the situation stupidly and manipulated the support’s words. Yes it isn’t fun to be suspended if you are addicted to a game but that’s entirely your fault for losing that opportunity because of some stupid mistake you made. You played for this long and thus you should know of the rules. Who’s fault is it that you got banned after spending a ton of hours and money on a game? If a new player was given a 2nd chance, that’s fine but for a Long term player?
If we go by your logic, I would be allowed to scam anyone I like because I know I’ll get a 2nd chance since I’ve been playing this game for more than 3 years now. Obviously it shouldn’t work like that... Unless this is directed to new players who has only been playing for a month or two, that’s acceptable for them to receive a 2nd chance.
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Rules are rules. If you think people should deserve a 2nd chance despite being aware of the rules, think again. If I was a dev, I’ll reply a “Thank you, next” to you because all your evidence provided are obviously justified bans. Do you have the logs? Can you read the logs? Do you even know if these players are telling the truth? Obviously not.
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