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    Unhappy How to SAVE growtopia

    At this point its common knowledge growtopia is a dying game. Its bleeding players daily, and the multitude of spammers, scammers and overall toxic players are leading to some people just leaving. And one day, growtopia will reach its final days before it shuts down. Updates will slow down, and Ubisoft will just pull the plug. Then there will be 2 players. Full of expensive stuff turned cheap over time, then, one leaves. So the last player types in chat: "noob show wls" and disconnects. And so growtopia dies.

    But how can we prevent, or at least delay this game's death? Well, let's look back to 2013-2015 (i started playing around 2015) the game was targeted towards players who want to socialize and make friends, make art, etc. While nowadays its more about wealth. Don't get me wrong, growtopia is one of the few games to have a player built economy and its amazing how it hasnt crashed. But lets be real people, we should give socializing a chance.

    Next are the updates. The recent ones beings received with.. well... mixed opinions. But why is that? Well, thing is, the updates feel like a repeat of the past years , and they dont seem so genuine anymore. So to fix this, please for the love of god COMMUNICATE. growtopia forums take like, 5% of the player base, the mods are always hidden.. like, remember when the mods played with us? Instead of you know, just logging in to nuke some worlds every once in a while? When Seth and Hamumu used to deliver the WOTD awards personally? Those we're amazing! I think a link between players and creators is necessary to estabilish a happy playerbase.

    Now lets talk players. In peak time we have 35,00 ~
    40,000 players and in other times we have ~16,000. Dear lord, that is unforgivable! Want me to draw a comparison? Team Fortress 2, a 12 YEAR OLD GAME (released in 2007) has more players than growtopia! A game with more updates and a stable(er) economy! You know why? Because the players are too dang concentrated. Heres a pyramid:
    Very Rich/ Over 100 DLs (1%)
    The Rich/Over 10 DLs (9%)
    The Medium Class/Over 10 WLs (40%)
    The Lower Class/ Over 1 WL (30%)
    The Very Poor/ Less than 1 wl (10%)
    Alts, Spammers, New Players (10%)

    Have you noticed? Growtopia makes updates designed for the rich, the people who burn WLs just to joke around in the SBs, saying stuff like "whats 2+2??", even though they're a minority. (Amazingly rare stuff, adding items that are very expensive/hard to make) I was a Lower Class growtopian from 2015-2018 (i focused more on socializing and making friends) and this always made me angry, so by focusing on the LowerClass majority you'll please the playerbase as a whole, because in growtopia, trickle down economics just dont work if the top controls the economy.

    The Scammer Problem

    Growtopia has a lot of scams. A lot. We should focus on finding them and preventing them would please the community as a whole. Sorry for the wall of text, and please carry on with your day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thiago View Post
    Very Rich/ Over 100 DLs (1%)
    The Rich/Over 10 DLs (9%)
    The Medium Class/Over 10 WLs (40%)
    The Lower Class/ Over 1 WL (30%)
    The Very Poor/ Less than 1 wl (10%)
    Alts, Spammers, New Players (10%)
    Wow you have access to Growtopia's databases to see what % of people have what amount of dls?!??!?!

    Also 9% for over 10dls is probably not true
    there are WAYYYYYYYYYYY more people with 10dls+
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Wow you have access to Growtopia's databases to see what % of people have what amount of dls?!??!?!

    Also 9% for over 10dls is probably not true
    there are WAYYYYYYYYYYY more people with 10dls+
    Bruh 'tis simply an estimate on what i see everyday
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendOfHish View Post
    its just a 2d pixel free game targeted for kids, no one plays that shitty game anymore, i would rather go play pubg than this
    theres no way to save it because ubisoft have small brain
    Unfortunately for Ubisoft im a 200 IQ big brain individual so i fix game

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustBlue View Post
    Thiago, you're overthinking.
    You're actually right tbh
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    Growtopia is dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowgraalera View Post
    Growtopia is dead.
    Then why are you playing it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedaki View Post
    Then why are you playing it
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    I mean, what do you expect? Ubisoft barely advertises the game, hacking the game is so simple a 2 year old can do it, you can unban yourself within like 5 minutes if you know what you’re doing, and doing illegal stuff is more rewarding than actually playing the game. It’s a miracle it’s survived this long. Or you can look at it more positively...

    I believe the player count has been declining due to the recent increase in moderation. Sure, you can blame it on a “dead game lol,” but that’s not the only reason the player count is dropping.

    If we had more access to specific statistics about player count, we could make a better assumption.
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    On the contrary, please do not compare this game to other games. Growtopia is a COMPLETELY different game, compare to others. I saw your wee statement on how this game has less players than Team Fortress 2. TF2 is basically an FPS game, and majorty of the gaming community do play a lot of First/Third Person Shooter type games. MMO games do receive a lot of playerbase attention as well, like Dota 2 and League Of Legends. Growtopia is basically a time-grinding MMO game, that requires hard work, a lot of dedication. The reason this game doesn't have THAT many attention due to people think, that this game is just suitable for playerbase around 9-12 years old..... ish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thiago View Post



    Heres a pyramid:
    Very Rich/ Over 100 DLs (1%)
    The Rich/Over 10 DLs (9%)
    The Medium Class/Over 10 WLs (40%)
    The Lower Class/ Over 1 WL (30%)
    The Very Poor/ Less than 1 wl (10%)
    Alts, Spammers, New Players (10%)
    imagine a pyramid being wider in the middle, like a sims 4 logo.

    also, growtopia is a super great game, better than any useless shooting game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGrowtopiaChicken View Post
    imagine a pyramid being wider in the middle, like a sims 4 logo.

    also, growtopia is a super great game, better than any useless shooting game.
    Dont you dare talk **** about tf2 bruh
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxeyBoy View Post
    On the contrary, please do not compare this game to other games. Growtopia is a COMPLETELY different game, compare to others. I saw your wee statement on how this game has less players than Team Fortress 2. TF2 is basically an FPS game, and majorty of the gaming community do play a lot of First/Third Person Shooter type games. MMO games do receive a lot of playerbase attention as well, like Dota 2 and League Of Legends. Growtopia is basically a time-grinding MMO game, that requires hard work, a lot of dedication. The reason this game doesn't have THAT many attention due to people think, that this game is just suitable for playerbase around 9-12 years old..... ish
    drew the comparison because both have trading, scammers, wealth driven players and similar player numbers. The fact TF2 is a cartoonish FPS and growtopia is a cartoonish MMO (even though MMOs are usually more popular) is what sets them apart. Can we get back on the subject of saving growtopia?
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    A 2014 player here, and I can say that every game has it’s flaws, don’t just call a game out because of it’s flaws, there are still many good points out there. Player base WILL decrease overtime in almost every game out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thiago View Post
    At this point its common knowledge growtopia is a dying game. Its bleeding players daily, and the multitude of spammers, scammers and overall toxic players are leading to some people just leaving. And one day, growtopia will reach its final days before it shuts down. Updates will slow down, and Ubisoft will just pull the plug. Then there will be 2 players. Full of expensive stuff turned cheap over time, then, one leaves. So the last player types in chat: "noob show wls" and disconnects. And so growtopia dies.

    But how can we prevent, or at least delay this game's death? Well, let's look back to 2013-2015 (i started playing around 2015) the game was targeted towards players who want to socialize and make friends, make art, etc. While nowadays its more about wealth. Don't get me wrong, growtopia is one of the few games to have a player built economy and its amazing how it hasnt crashes. But lets be real people, we should give socializing a chance.

    Next are the updates. The recent ones beings received with.. well... mixed opinions. But why is that? Well, thing is, the updates feel like a repeat of the past years , and they dont seem so genuine anymore. So to fix this, please for the love of god COMMUNICATE. growtopia forums take like, 5% of the player base, the mods are always hidden.. like, remember when the mods played with us? Instead of you know, just logging in to nuke some worlds every once in a while? When Seth and Hamumu used to deliver the WOTD awards personally? Those we're amazing! I think a link between players and creators is necessary to estabilish a happy playerbase.

    Now lets talk players. In peak time we have 35,00 ~
    40,000 players and in other times we have ~16,000. Dear lord, that is unforgivable! Want me to draw a comparison? Team Fortress 2, a 12 YEAR OLD GAME (released in 2007) has more players than growtopia! A game with more updates and a stable(er) economy! You know why? Because the players are too dang concentrated. Heres a pyramid:
    Very Rich/ Over 100 DLs (1%)
    The Rich/Over 10 DLs (9%)
    The Medium Class/Over 10 WLs (40%)
    The Lower Class/ Over 1 WL (30%)
    The Very Poor/ Less than 1 wl (10%)
    Alts, Spammers, New Players (10%)

    Have you noticed? Growtopia makes updates designed for the rich, the people who burn WLs just to joke around in the SBs, saying stuff like "whats 2+2??", even though they're a minority. (Amazingly rare stuff, adding items that are very expensive/hard to make) I was a Lower Class growtopian from 2015-2018 (i focused more on socializing and making friends) and this always made me angry, so by focusing on the LowerClass majority you'll please the playerbase as a whole, because in growtopia, trickle down economics just dont work if the top controls the economy.

    The Scammer Problem

    Growtopia has a lot of scams. A lot. We should focus on finding them and preventing them would please the community as a whole. Sorry for the wall of text, and please carry on with your day.
    IMO This would be more accurate...
    I eat Dls for Breakfast (20 BGL+) 1%
    Very Rich/ Over 100 DLs (10%)
    The Rich/Over 10 DLs (20%)
    The Medium Class/Over 1DL (40%)
    The Lower Class/ Over 10 WL (5%)
    The Very Poor/ Less than 5 wl (1%)
    Alts, Spammers, (20%)
    New players (1%)

    This is basically from just entering random worlds and such, most people had at least 1Dl total worth, very few had less than 30wls, Also new players can advance much quicker now, one of my apprentices gained about 30wls in his first 2Days playing. Also No socialism pls. Secondly those expensive items are added to keep interest in the game, the people who are at the bottom rung strive for those items which in turn allows for them to become better traders and better profiteers, I think the system works OK rn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lopyhupis View Post
    IMO This would be more accurate...
    I eat Dls for Breakfast (20 BGL+) 1%
    Very Rich/ Over 100 DLs (10%)
    The Rich/Over 10 DLs (20%)
    The Medium Class/Over 1DL (40%)
    The Lower Class/ Over 10 WL (5%)
    The Very Poor/ Less than 5 wl (1%)
    Alts, Spammers, (20%)
    New players (1%)

    This is basically from just entering random worlds and such, most people had at least 1Dl total worth, very few had less than 30wls, Also new players can advance much quicker now, one of my apprentices gained about 30wls in his first 2Days playing. Also No socialism pls. Secondly those expensive items are added to keep interest in the game, the people who are at the bottom rung strive for those items which in turn allows for them to become better traders and better profiteers, I think the system works OK rn.
    Alright, yeah, that's- naw, that's a pretty good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winwood View Post
    A 2014 player here, and I can say that every game has it’s flaws, don’t just call a game out because of it’s flaws, there are still many good points out there. Player base WILL decrease overtime in almost every game out there.
    I mean, you certainly arent wrong, but the rate at how the player numbers are dropping is scary. Today i saw 9,000 players. 9,000. At 10 a.m.
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