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    There are oftens moments in video games or silly cartoons where the player becomes oblivious that he is indeed a mere simple character inside a fake world, this is what we've become known as "Fourth Wall Breaking". To put it simply, breaking the fourth wall means that the borders between your world and a larger media is open, or "broken", thus we know that we are inside another bigger world. But if there's a fourth wall, is there such things as a fifth wall, or a third wall?

    I've long been wondering about this topic, so I've created a theory based off this question. I call it : "The Astig's Wall Theory"

    - ASTIG'S WALL THEORY -


    Astig's Wall Theory is a thought theory that signifies the existences of borders between platonics of awareness. Being aware of a certain entity means that we've broken a border, or a wall. The order of walls counts down from one and could theoretically climb up to infinity.

    Starting from the bottom, First Wall Breaking is where an entity becomes self aware. The being knows of its existence and is fully aware of it. It can feel and control its very being. It knows that itself is alive and exists. This would mean that inanimate/dead objects are not capable of breaking the first wall. Second Wall Breaking is where an entity is now aware of other aware beings around itself. It knows that beings similar to itself exists, each of them with its own awareness of itself and other's existence and aliveness. At this point, communications between two aware beings can be made, forming the basics of social bonds. Third Wall Breaking takes it one notch further, and the group of aware beings (or theoretically just one) is now aware of the environment around themselves. It can sense a field of a variety of objects around itself. It can see, feel, smell, hear, and taste the world it is in. They are now fully aware of all the possible things around itself. Humanity has reached a point of third wall breaking. But can we go further?

    Fourth Wall Breaking is where things goes tricky. With the logic of the previous walls, fourth wall breaking suggests that the being is now aware of a larger world beyond it's world. An example would be discovering that we live inside a simulation, which in itself is hard to wrap our minds around. Right now we have not yet broken our fourth wall, and it's nearly impossible to prove that we are living inside a matrix. If we indeed proved that we are living inside a simulation, that wouldn't necessarily mean that we've broken the fourth wall. We would have to be able to be aware of it. The knowledge of being inside a simulation doesn't grant us the "feeling" of actually being inside the "outside world" our simulation is run at.

    Now that we've explored walls below the fourth wall, how about further up? Fifth Wall Breaking would mean that we are aware of a being above our world that is aware of itself, other people, and its environment, but we can only be aware of that one single being. Almost every kids show does this, an example is where the protagonist asks the audience a question, therefore the protagonist of that show is indeed aware of beings outside of its world. Sixth Wall Breaking is the hard part. It could mean that we've become aware of multiple people inside a world bigger than ours, or being aware of the entire world itself, meaning that we've become aware of the world as a whole. Or perhaps we've already become aware of the entire world by the time we've broken the fifth wall. This problem is yet to be solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astigmatisme View Post
    There are oftens moments in video games or silly cartoons where the player becomes oblivious that he is indeed a mere simple character inside a fake world, this is what we've become known as "Fourth Wall Breaking". To put it simply, breaking the fourth wall means that the borders between your world and a larger media is open, or "broken", thus we know that we are inside another bigger world. But if there's a fourth wall, is there such things as a fifth wall, or a third wall?

    I've long been wondering about this topic, so I've created a theory based off this question. I call it : "The Astig's Wall Theory"

    - ASTIG'S WALL THEORY -


    Astig's Wall Theory is a thought theory that signifies the existences of borders between platonics of awareness. Being aware of a certain entity means that we've broken a border, or a wall. The order of walls counts down from one and could theoretically climb up to infinity.

    Starting from the bottom, First Wall Breaking is where an entity becomes self aware. The being knows of its existence and is fully aware of it. It can feel and control its very being. It knows that itself is alive and exists. This would mean that inanimate/dead objects are not capable of breaking the first wall. Second Wall Breaking is where an entity is now aware of other aware beings around itself. It knows that beings similar to itself exists, each of them with its own awareness of itself and other's existence and aliveness. At this point, communications between two aware beings can be made, forming the basics of social bonds. Third Wall Breaking takes it one notch further, and the group of aware beings (or theoretically just one) is now aware of the environment around themselves. It can sense a field of a variety of objects around itself. It can see, feel, smell, hear, and taste the world it is in. They are now fully aware of all the possible things around itself. Humanity has reached a point of third wall breaking. But can we go further?

    Fourth Wall Breaking is where things goes tricky. With the logic of the previous walls, fourth wall breaking suggests that the being is now aware of a larger world beyond it's world. An example would be discovering that we live inside a simulation, which in itself is hard to wrap our minds around. Right now we have not yet broken our fourth wall, and it's nearly impossible to prove that we are living inside a matrix. If we indeed proved that we are living inside a simulation, that wouldn't necessarily mean that we've broken the fourth wall. We would have to be able to be aware of it. The knowledge of being inside a simulation doesn't grant us the "feeling" of actually being inside the "outside world" our simulation is run at.

    Now that we've explored walls below the fourth wall, how about further up? Fifth Wall Breaking would mean that we are aware of a being above our world that is aware of itself, other people, and its environment, but we can only be aware of that one single being. Almost every kids show does this, an example is where the protagonist asks the audience a question, therefore the protagonist of that show is indeed aware of beings outside of its world. Sixth Wall Breaking is the hard part. It could mean that we've become aware of multiple people inside a world bigger than ours, or being aware of the entire world itself, meaning that we've become aware of the world as a whole. Or perhaps we've already become aware of the entire world by the time we've broken the fifth wall. This problem is yet to be solved.

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