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    Quote Originally Posted by HugeLock View Post
    Free BFGs exist.
    New players don't know how to farm, let alone know what a BFG is.

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    Hi, this topic revealed some really great ideas - and the follow-up discussion as well! In general we agree with most of it, but we need to see how we can address your concerns. For most of it, it is not easy to implement them. We are indeed looking into possible ways to make the game more engaging for both new and veteran players, so we're really grateful for such a feedback and we'll keep you informed regarding any future plans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayame View Post
    Hi, this topic revealed some really great ideas - and the follow-up discussion as well! In general we agree with most of it, but we need to see how we can address your concerns. For most of it, it is not easy to implement them. We are indeed looking into possible ways to make the game more engaging for both new and veteran players, so we're really grateful for such a feedback and we'll keep you informed regarding any future plans
    I think If we look at the current situation of the growtopia, this tutorial problem is one of the most important issue right now. More important than new monthly updates. If developers can improve the tutorial system perfectly(these listed suggestion pretty perfect ), imagine how many players going to start growtopia from just one sponsored video.
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    Most games, the tutorial is automated until it comes to the parts where it's time to actually learn something. Example of how to fix that in tutorial world.
    Enter someone in a world like tutorial_83493, only dirt nothing fun and move them to a little area with some blocks that are highlighted and the others grayed out with a popup that says tip:hit the block (something like that) and once one drops a seed (it should be predetermined so that they can make the player autopickup a seed, give them 4 more and tell them to plant it. Keep going until someone gets all the basics. There should also be a tip that buy+item name is the best way to buy/sell an item. Honestly there's improvements to be had in more than just the tutorial and this is merely just a suggestion.
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    I think door id tutorial should be removed. It's too hard for newbies, think about who don't speak english.


    Buy Small Lock Pop-up.
    Also there is something wrong about buying locks with 50 gems. If the newbie confused and click the Item Packs(Instead of Lock & Stuff), they can spend the gems on Door Pack or Clothes pack. After that, system keep spamming the BUY LOCK pop-up for ever. [<Make newbie locks for newbies>]



    Another newbie that got scammed/trolled by other players;

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    • 3- Make <Newbie Lock> for beginners and this lock will disintegrate after 30 offline days(normally 180days for small lock). You can't set this world as Public world or you can't set world level or something. There should be only Category and music buttons. < This newbie lock will save newbies from scammers/trollers, now they can build anything they want >.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    First of all Growtopia is pretty complicated game for newbies. Currently most of player started growtopia with friend helps, our friends help us to learn how to splice or earn gems. But these newbies that see ad from youtube or other social platform can't do anything. I'm telling this because i saw like <10> ps4 newbie streamer on twitch. 2 of them stuck at TUTORIAL world. They tried to talk with mannequin and stream end up with 'Can't leave this area'. 5 of them end up with stuck at growpedia quests(most of them door id thing) and they quit because of getting tutorial pup-up spam. And lastly 3 of them got scammed their trees and they just end the stream(People enter the newbie world and lock the full area, or they scam their trees).

    What is the solution for this?

    • 1- Current newbie tutorial(growpedia thing) is more like bot account blocker. You can expect newbies to do these things (especially door id thing) and most of gamers don't like to read something on the tutorial part. Just make a tutorial that force the player to click the seeds to place it in one space then splice it, that's all. (Remove door id part, they can learn it later.) I hate to say this but just check Pixel Worlds tutorial; https://youtu.be/Nvqbwosh4Pg?t=112

    • 2- Second thing is recipes for new players, build a world like WIKI on pc servers, write all recipes on the signs and put the recipe world button on the main menu. (This world size should be 200x200 like NASDAQ on PC)(This button will be on menu for 1-25 levels, it will disappear after level 25.)

    • 2,5- Recipe book, It's suggested many times also as i remember nekorei or one of the developers say something good about it. It was almost a year ago. Make a recipe book for new players! Again few months ago it's maded by pixel worlds(They are taking suggestion from our SUGGESTION BOX...); https://youtu.be/JNeD3r86ocM?t=48

    • 3- Make <Newbie Lock> for beginners and this lock will disintegrate after 30 offline days(normally 180days for small lock). You can't set this world as Public world or you can't set world level or something. There should be only Category and music buttons. < This newbie lock will save newbies from scammers/trollers, now they can build anything they want >.

    • 4- Make Dirty gems Blocks for newbies, As i said, most old players started with friends helps, our friend gave us few farmables to earn gems, they give us wls to secure our world. So, this block have %75 chance to drop 1 gems and it will be farmable, INFO: < This dirty gems block is farmable, keep farming it until you reach the your goals. It has %75 chance to drop one gems. >

    • 5-Improvement for Apprentices(Mentorship program); It's pretty dead feature, you seriously expect us to find between 1-3level real newbie in this game. It's impossible. Change it to 1-15 Level and Miletstone rewards should be; 5-15-25-30. Only 4 level. As a mentor, <Miletstone Rewards> will start form level 25. Also change 1 year sub to Unique sword. It would be better.


    The result of this list.
    Now players know how to splice and they has recipe world/or book. They can splice their blocks to build dream world, and newbie lock will help to secure this world. Also they can earn gems to buy Rare Clothes pack to make awesome set. After secure their world, they can accept visitors to make friends or get mentor.. Their mentor can help to learn growtopia more and more. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    What is the solution for this?

    • 4- Make Dirty gems Blocks for newbies, As i said, most old players started with friends helps, our friend gave us few farmables to earn gems, they give us wls to secure our world. So, this block have %75 chance to drop 1 gems and it will be farmable, INFO: < This dirty gems block is farmable, keep farming it until you reach the your goals. It has %75 chance to drop one gems. >

    After thinking for a while, 75% chance to drop 1 gems is too much for tier 1 item. Changed it into the 60%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    After thinking for a while, 75% chance to drop 1 gems is too much for tier 1 item. Changed it into the 35%.
    Oh please, doing BFGs would've given more gems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrects View Post
    Oh please, doing BFGs would've given more gems
    With 75% drop chance, they can earn 2000gems per hour with only farming Dirty gems block. They should start slowly for enjoying this game in long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    With 75% drop chance, they can earn 2000gems per hour with only farming Dirty gems block. They should start slowly for enjoying this game in long time.
    And you can do that easily with BFGs anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrects View Post
    And you can do that easily with BFGs anyway
    We are talking about newbies, do you think they know how to use bfg worlds? i hope this block encourages them to continue the game. After they learn more thing about the game. They can start to build farm with farmables or they can use bfg worlds. Dirt blocks for only newbies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowPixel View Post
    We are talking about newbies, do you think they know how to use bfg worlds? i hope this block encourages them to continue the game. After they learn more thing about the game. They can start to build farm with farmables or they can use bfg worlds. Dirt blocks for only newbies.
    I guide noobs about bfg and grass every day. We should get other old players do just same. Ik it takes time, when you need say these things to every noob when they ask donates, so maybe, someone could make noob guide world and then we all could simple say that noob guide worlds name.

    In guide world, should be link for buybfg or bfglink or whatever free bfg link worldsthere is and explanation how free bfg works and there should be guide, how to splice grass tree, cause in 1h, noob can make 200 grass seeds and sell for wl.

    And one weird fact: When i was noob i did not understand how to wrench bulletin boards, i didn't know that there could be text in it, so all info should be in signs, not in boards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe View Post
    I guide noobs about bfg and grass every day. We should get other old players do just same, Ik it takes time.
    Well, that's why i suggested to improve current Mentorship program.

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    • 5-Improvement for Apprentices(Mentorship program); It's pretty dead feature, you seriously expect us to find between 1-3level real newbie in this game. It's impossible. Change it to 1-15 Level and Miletstone rewards should be; 5-15-25-30. Only 4 level. As a mentor, <Miletstone Rewards> will start form level 25. Also change 1 year sub to Unique sword. It would be better.
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    Everyone here makes agood point
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    There are way too many cons

    apprentice thing mostly all sub account

    new players quit quick

    and most mentors just for quick profits lost interest

    and when you reach certain level you you aren’t able to get mentors

    preston ad he used like his sub YouTube account not the main but still got300k+ views on Growtopia. He got free stuff so he made the impression that it is easy to get free stuff so like maybe people will play but backfire

    fix some things that would welcome new players

    some problems
    1. if get scammed they would cry(if kid) and quit. There would be greedy fake people saying they got scammed too
    2. noobs play dirt game drop game and such if scam quit
    3. they do casino to earn some wls, it is literally the fastest way from farming if ban or get scam they quit.
    4. they trust some growtopian and get scammed
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    To be fair, there should be an advanced tutorial and some welcoming rewards, like a Small Lock just to make sure they can secure their worlds so they can farm or stuff.

    Also, the Growpedia should be updated as well. And when they succesfully completed the Growpedia tutorial, they should be rewarded, like for example a Pickaxe, just to make sure they break blocks easier.

    And one more thing, I know this sounds hilarious, and kind of unnecessary, but new players, from level 1-20 or something like that, when they type like "Donate", the word would be blocked with a pop-up saying "Work! Don't donate!". (it pops on my head suddenly pls dont ask why)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxeyBoy View Post
    To be fair, there should be an advanced tutorial and some welcoming rewards, like a Small Lock just to make sure they can secure their worlds so they can farm or stuff.

    Also, the Growpedia should be updated as well. And when they succesfully completed the Growpedia tutorial, they should be rewarded, like for example a Pickaxe, just to make sure they break blocks easier.

    And one more thing, I know this sounds hilarious, and kind of unnecessary, but new players, from level 1-20 or something like that, when they type like "Donate", the word would be blocked with a pop-up saying "Work! Don't donate!". (it pops on my head suddenly pls dont ask why)
    This sounds like a great idea! You should totally make a thread with a poll in the suggestion sub-forum, I would give my support.

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    Or you can even make an automatically generated and automatically updating recipe finder, since the console players can just look at PC worlds who have already discovered all the recipes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxeyBoy View Post
    To be fair, there should be an advanced tutorial and some welcoming rewards, like a Small Lock just to make sure they can secure their worlds so they can farm or stuff.
    The Growpedia on PC does give out a small lock and teach you how to lock your world safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by
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    5-Improvement for Apprentices(Mentorship program); It's pretty dead feature, you seriously expect us to find between 1-3level real newbie in this game. It's impossible. Change it to 1-15 Level and Miletstone rewards should be; 5-15-25-30. Only 4 level. As a mentor, <Miletstone Rewards> will start form level 25. Also change 1 year sub to Unique sword. It would be better.[/LIST]

    The result of this list.
    Now players know how to splice and they has recipe world/or book. They can splice their blocks to build dream world, and newbie lock will help to secure this world. Also they can earn gems to buy Rare Clothes pack to make awesome set. After secure their world, they can accept visitors to make friends or get mentor.. Their mentor can help to learn growtopia more and more. What do you think?

    Sponsor to Youtubers
    2-3months ago ubisoft sponsor to youtubers but it's failed because of wrong tutorial system. After making these things^^ sponsor to one big youtuber and see what will happen, thell them to say '' I made this world, downloand this game and join me tomorrow, this is my world...) Also give them a lot of castle blocks instead of cool clothes.

    Few problems
    I'm on board with the whole idea behind this but there are a few flaws still with what you're thinking. First off to fix this I personally think pop up's shouldn't be a thing. Pop ups are just an annoyance to players in general. When you're starting the game for the first time do you usually ever read instructions or do you try and figure things out for yourself? Most people figure it out for themselves and end up enjoying the game a lot more. Nothing and I mean Nothing is more annoying than having a thing pop up in your face while you're getting your first blocks and trying to enjoy the game. Second off with all of this the mentor ship program should be from levels 1-15 because most real new players don't know what is going on when they enter the game and go off on their own without even knowing how to chat (especially in the mobile games). And lastly with the "Starter Lock" as I'm going to call it, it should last a total of 10 days by then most new players will have left the game or have gotten some form of alternative lock by then. These are just some of the ways that I think would allow Growtopia to flourish over the next couple of years to a wider audience.
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