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    If you find someone who is selling art, contact them and tell them that it is illegal and if they say that they didn't know and don't do it anymore then spare them from the report but if you find someone who is still continuing after telling them about or supposedly knows about it then spare none.
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    There's nothing much we as forumers could do... From a player's perspective, I feel that it's very difficult to track and find out who the culprits and victims are since many of them use the Private Message function on Instagram. Also, the Growtopia rules states that any picture/video claiming it, cannot be used as evidence - I'm assuming the descriptions on Instagrams are not counted as well.

    I would like to bring this up again, as what Dyn says, there should be clearer rules. Update the /rules to make it much more coherent - Minors can't understand it, trust me. And yes, Moderators/staff should have a clear and precise interpretation of the rules - since they are higher ups and the Growtopia community looks up to them.
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    smh we need quick response from the moderators or this will continue

    all i could find is this, said by Elbin. This could be a strong proof not to sell arts for ingame items.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elbin View Post
    This has been posted before but we still get asked this at support quite often:

    Q: Can I trade my artwork/videos for WL/DL?

    A: No, you can’t. While not a serious as selling game items for cash it is still not allowed to trade in game items for anything outside the game. While it would be cool to allow players to trade videos and art for game items there are players that would use this as a cover for selling game items for cash, which is illegal in some countries, which is one of the main reasons it is illegal in Growtopia.
    If you do find a person selling his/her art for ingame items, you should tell them about this or else theyll be punished
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    This is a grey area, a technicality in the rules. It's an umbrella rule to stop major dodgy real-life trades, and to stop the economy from going out of whack. Art isn't the main focus.

    Why is it a "huge issue"? Does it really matter? While it probably shouldn't be allowed or encouraged, it doesn't hurt much. Moderating resources should be better spent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HugeLock View Post
    It's really common, but it's illegal.
    Yea it's illegal. Just think about how easily scams can occur in this case. Not only could you get scammed by the person responsible for selling the art, but there is also the chance that the person responsible would end up getting scammed by the buyer. So yea, definitely risky and seriously illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MineDeath View Post
    Yea it's illegal. Just think about how easily scams can occur in this case. Not only could you get scammed by the person responsible for selling the art, but there is also the chance that the person responsible would end up getting scammed by the buyer. So yea, definitely risky and seriously illegal.
    Tons and tons of people have already been scammed.
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    ubisoft staff member able to buy art from person we cannot!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe View Post
    Maybe you should just tell them that it is against rules.
    After telling that to him/her, they usually dodge from our advise and mostly they're stubborn.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Electrolava9 View Post
    After telling that to him/her, they usually dodge from our advise and mostly they're stubborn.
    And they get away with it. Doing something to even one major illegal art seller would send a message to all the others to stop with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HugeLock View Post
    And they get away with it. Doing something to even one major illegal art seller would send a message to all the others to stop with it.
    I don't get it, why does it bother you? let them do their thing, yes it is illegal, if they get scammed it's their own fault.

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    I can definitely see why people are confused about this. /rules only states "Out of game buying/selling of Growtopia accounts, items or worlds is not allowed and may result in a ban."
    No specification for art, though logically speaking it does fall under the category of an "out of game item".

    Art doesn't really benefit the purchaser, does it?

    Also people host art contests with wl prizes. It's technically the same, except that a payment isn't guaranteed.



    I don't really see why art selling should be banned. It doesn't hurt anyone. Money to wls and vice versa is different, though.

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    To be honest i wish i can be that type of people who are artistic enough to "sell" their (art)works.

    But anyway, let's read through these legal documents to find possible answers before arguing furiously here.

    http://legal.ubi.com/en-INTL

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    Oh no... It's illegal because it relates to copyright issues in real life.

    Can't explain specifically because i am not an expert at law area obviously. *XD

    Companies can sue those fan artists for copyright infringement but most choose not to as there are many more major stuffs the businesses have to worry about.

    I am not sure whether it's only target those people who sell for money, or all fan arts.


    I found an internet user recommended this article;
    https://io9.gizmodo.com/are-fan-fict...l-5933976?IR=T

    And copyright law in US

    "Copyright infringement can be civil or criminal in nature. The provisions exist for both. Copyright infringement for profit can easily fall under the criminal side as outlined in title 17 (https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html#506):

    § 506. Criminal offenses

    (a) Criminal Infringement. —

    (1) In general. — Any person who willfully infringes a copyright shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, if the infringement was committed —

    (A) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain"







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    I do not think it is a HUGEE problem. There are way more important problems in growtopia currently.
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