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    Alright, so after doing extensive amounts of clash tickets, I have begun to run into an issue and I'm not sure if it is just my INCREDIBLE bad luck, or if it is something that Ubisoft changed without informing us.

    Within the last month, I have completed 35 of the summer/winter clash tickets, all of which got to prize number 9.

    At prize number 9, the drop rates go as follows (at least according to the board there)
    63% common
    21.5% rare
    15.5% epic

    The issue is, I have not obtained an epic prize in all 35 of these tickets. you may just think its a stroke of bad luck, but the odds of getting no epic prize in 35 tickets are (6/7)^35 which is equal to a 0.04% of occurring.

    I could just be having terrible luck or was it changed without us being informed like with SSU% a year or so ago.


    EDIT: I got more data from a friend who also does mass tickets, he has only obtained 2 epic prizes from 48 tickets completed.

    EDIT 2: just got info from alfiesock (another mass ticket user), he has used 70+ tickets recently and only has gotten 2 epic prices.

    IF this is the case and Ubisoft failed to inform us or update the boards with drop chances, all of us mass ticket users deserve some sort of compensation because of their lack of communication and pure unprofessionalism on this, at this point what makes it different than a scam world or a casino?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodle905 View Post
    Alright, so after doing extensive amounts of clash tickets, I have begun to run into an issue and I'm not sure if it is just my INCREDIBLE bad luck, or if it is something that Ubisoft changed without informing us.

    Within the last month, I have completed 35 of the summer/winter clash tickets, all of which got to prize number 9.

    At prize number 9, the drop rates go as follows (at least according to the board there)
    63% common
    21.5% rare
    15.5% epic

    The issue is, I have not obtained an epic prize in all 35 of these tickets. you may just think its a stroke of bad luck, but the odds of getting no epic prize in 35 tickets are (6/7)^35 which is equal to a 0.04% of occurring.

    I could just be having terrible luck or was it changed without us being informed like with SSU% a year or so ago.


    EDIT: I got more data from a friend who also does mass tickets, he has only obtained 2 epic prizes from 48 tickets completed.
    I used to do tickets for my guild members, I am pretty sure that I have used over 30-50 tickets since the very first event and I have got ONE epic reward (Stormbreaker), which I actually got today. Those tickets may be worth atleast 20-30 dls and if I would have sold all the rewards I've got I would get like 5 DLs, maybe not even that.. =D
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    I did many ticket like over 30+ only epic I get was flaming aura, before they nerf in 5 ticket i can easily get aurora wing or dmc

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    Okay I’m glad to see I am not the only one experiencing this, something has to be up.

    The real question is, if the drop rates were changed why weren’t the bulliten boards outlining the drop chances changed?

    Me and countless other people spent 30+ diamond locks in an attempt to get good items with odds we thought were good, so if you changed them without informing us that doesn’t seem very fair to all of us who use tickets in the game.

    EDIT: just got info from alfiesock (another mass ticket user), he has used 70+ tickets recently and only has gotten 2 epic prices.


    IF this is the case and Ubisoft failed to inform us or update the boards with drop chances, all of us mass ticket users deserve some sort of compensation because of their lack of communication and pure unprofessionalism on this, at this point what makes it different than a scam world or a casino?
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    I've heard this from many of my friends as well, they definitely changed something, we need some answers!
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    maybe all of these items called epic.
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    this is super messed up we need clarity on this subject
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    Hey guys! Just checked the drop rates - everything seems to be in order, with a 15.6% cumulative chance of something epic (at Prize Gate #9). We may have different definitions of epic, though, so just to make sure we're all on the same page, here are the items included in that list (in no particular order):
    • Crown of Duplication
    • Supplier's Cape
    • Dual Crescent Blade
    • Robotic MK. IV Wings
    • Mad Hatter
    • Jack's Hat
    • Storm Breaker
    • The Great Chameleon
    • Sun Blade
    • Extractor Dynamo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkos View Post
    Hey guys! Just checked the drop rates - everything seems to be in order, with a 15.6% cumulative chance of something epic (at Prize Gate #9). We may have different definitions of epic, though, so just to make sure we're all on the same page, here are the items included in that list (in no particular order):
    • Crown of Duplication
    • Supplier's Cape
    • Dual Crescent Blade
    • Robotic MK. IV Wings
    • Mad Hatter
    • Jack's Hat
    • Storm Breaker
    • The Great Chameleon
    • Sun Blade
    • Extractor Dynamo
    The following
    • Crown of Duplication
    • Supplier's Cape
    • Mad Hatter
    • Extractor Dynamo

    Should not be considered as epic prizes, or just have another tier after epic as well.

    But the real problem is what is considered as "epic" changes month by month so by your definition you might be correct. What should stop happening is items on the epic list to be used in other parts of growtopia for example the Sun blade. This just causes one item to be out valued from the rest and that's why the definitions of "epics" is different from developer to players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkos View Post
    Hey guys! Just checked the drop rates - everything seems to be in order, with a 15.6% cumulative chance of something epic (at Prize Gate #9). We may have different definitions of epic, though, so just to make sure we're all on the same page, here are the items included in that list (in no particular order):
    • Crown of Duplication
    • Supplier's Cape
    • Dual Crescent Blade
    • Robotic MK. IV Wings
    • Mad Hatter
    • Jack's Hat
    • Storm Breaker
    • The Great Chameleon
    • Sun Blade
    • Extractor Dynamo
    i don't see no jack's hat in the prize pool bro and why is the dance master's crown in the display shelves if it's a summer clash reward
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkos View Post
    Hey guys! Just checked the drop rates - everything seems to be in order, with a 15.6% cumulative chance of something epic (at Prize Gate #9). We may have different definitions of epic, though, so just to make sure we're all on the same page, here are the items included in that list (in no particular order):
    • Crown of Duplication
    • Supplier's Cape
    • Dual Crescent Blade
    • Robotic MK. IV Wings
    • Mad Hatter
    • Jack's Hat
    • Storm Breaker
    • The Great Chameleon
    • Sun Blade
    • Extractor Dynamo
    jack's hat isnt on the display shelves though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkos View Post
    Hey guys! Just checked the drop rates - everything seems to be in order, with a 15.6% cumulative chance of something epic (at Prize Gate #9). We may have different definitions of epic, though, so just to make sure we're all on the same page, here are the items included in that list (in no particular order):
    • Crown of Duplication
    • Supplier's Cape
    • Dual Crescent Blade
    • Robotic MK. IV Wings
    • Mad Hatter
    • Jack's Hat
    • Storm Breaker
    • The Great Chameleon
    • Sun Blade
    • Extractor Dynamo
    Are the drop rates for every epic prize equal chance? Or are things like supplier’s cape more common than things like sun blades?


    ALSO, why is a supplier cape legendary but crafters cape isn’t?
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    Ubisoft needs to answer this, it’s absolutely absurd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodle905 View Post
    Are the drop rates for every epic prize equal chance? Or are things like supplier’s cape more common than things like sun blades?

    ALSO, why is a supplier cape legendary but crafters cape isn’t?
    No, some are rarer than others, but they all have a fairly low chance of dropping (the highest is somewhere around 3%, I think). And I think it's because the community valued the supplier cape more highly, so it was balanced accordingly.

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    i don't see no jack's hat in the prize pool bro and why is the dance master's crown in the display shelves if it's a summer clash reward
    Those are display bugs - weird ones, too - but the drops should still be correct behind the scenes. There's no chance you'll be getting Dancemaster's Crown, and there should be a chance of getting Jack's Hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkos View Post
    No, some are rarer than others, but they all have a fairly low chance of dropping (the highest is somewhere around 3%, I think). And I think it's because the community valued the supplier cape more highly, so it was balanced accordingly.
    Okay, let's pause here, what's the point of having the drop rates listed if they are intentionally misleading. Having uneven drop rates for different items within each prize tier was never disclosed to the community for what reason exactly, why keep something important like that hidden from us until now? This is extremely misleading and gives us the idea that each item in the tier is of equal drop chance, afterall what is the point of having tiers if each item has its own unique drop rate in the first place?? Having known this information nobody would have used many tickets in the hope of getting good items.

    Additionally, why were the items in each tier of prizes not disclosed until now as well? This kind of terrible communication makes no sense in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodle905 View Post
    Okay, let's pause here, what's the point of having the drop rates listed if they are intentionally misleading. Having uneven drop rates for different items within each prize tier was never disclosed to the community for what reason exactly, why keep something important like that hidden from us until now? This is extremely misleading and gives us the idea that each item in the tier is of equal drop chance, afterall what is the point of having tiers if each item has its own unique drop rate in the first place?? Having known this information nobody would have used many tickets in the hope of getting good items.

    Additionally, why were the items in each tier of prizes not disclosed until now as well? This kind of terrible communication makes no sense in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodle905 View Post
    Okay, let's pause here, what's the point of having the drop rates listed if they are intentionally misleading. Having uneven drop rates for different items within each prize tier was never disclosed to the community for what reason exactly, why keep something important like that hidden from us until now? This is extremely misleading and gives us the idea that each item in the tier is of equal drop chance, afterall what is the point of having tiers if each item has its own unique drop rate in the first place?? Having known this information nobody would have used many tickets in the hope of getting good items.

    Additionally, why were the items in each tier of prizes not disclosed until now as well? This kind of terrible communication makes no sense in my opinion.
    I believe that's what he means by "cumulative chance".
    Items that are valued more have a lower chance for example the supplier cape which in my opinion needs to change since the values of items fluctuate drastically, and might be considered as "epic" won't be that in a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayer7 View Post
    I believe that's what he means by "cumulative chance".
    Items that are valued more have a lower chance for example the supplier cape which in my opinion needs to change since the values of items fluctuate drastically, and might be considered as "epic" won't be a that in a month.
    Yep, exactly. There's nothing nefarious here - we've never given out precise drop rates for individual items, and we don't plan on starting now, but we did want to give you a general idea of the odds of your getting something really nice at the prize gates, and also help you understand how those odds went up depending on how far you got.

    Basically, we're giving more information than we typically do here to help you judge which gate to choose, but we're never going to be exact in terms of an item-by-item basis in this sort of case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkos View Post
    Yep, exactly. There's nothing nefarious here - we've never given out precise drop rates for individual items, and we don't plan on starting now, but we did want to give you a general idea of the odds of your getting something really nice at the prize gates, and also help you understand how those odds went up depending on how far you got.

    Basically, we're giving more information than we typically do here to help you judge which gate to choose, but we're never going to be exact in terms of an item-by-item basis in this sort of case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkos View Post
    Yep, exactly. There's nothing nefarious here - we've never given out precise drop rates for individual items, and we don't plan on starting now, but we did want to give you a general idea of the odds of your getting something really nice at the prize gates, and also help you understand how those odds went up depending on how far you got.

    Basically, we're giving more information than we typically do here to help you judge which gate to choose, but we're never going to be exact in terms of an item-by-item basis in this sort of case.
    If anything, it is MORE misleading by giving 'broad' prize percents when you are giving us what is in each prize pool, and by not making the distinction between the rarity of certain prizes in each tier.

    for example, you would never say "you have a 1/20 chance of getting an EPIC prize from a valentines pack" and show angels and a GHC, but then have the angels appear 99.9% of the time and GHC appearing 0.1% of the time, as its extremely misleading.

    Its better to have no percentages at all than to have misleading ones.
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