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    Default Are Moderators/Guardians all we need? Idea that could be an update.

    Just for your information, this thread will include quotes from ShadowSURFER's video, Ezzerio's first Community thread, partly inspired by Skullifer's thread on "Where's the respect?" I'm always very invested into the game's community related stuff and this has been going through my mind lately...

    This is not an attack on anybody. Just viewing my opinion on how we could improve the game's community.


    First and for most, I don't hate any Moderator/Guardian, I truly respect you guys and how you guys shape the community. But are Moderators/Guardians all we need to make a civil community? Well, you can say that we have the rules, Growtopian Code perfectly set up and players could read them. But to be frank, most of the players are kids, looking at a hefty chunk of words, I doubt any of them will read it.

    Quit talking about statistics, if we as players can't really feel them, it will be further clarified below.
    "- Thanks to stronger in-game monitoring, casino bans haven’t been so high in, well, forever."
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    *Literally half of my screen on the home tab is on casinos... Really?
    I do appreciate the Moderators/Guardians efforts in dealing with spammers/casinos/basically rule breakers. I am not against it AT ALL. But just look at the picture... What impressions might that give if I have not read the thread by Ezzerio? What first impressions might it give to a new player? Think about that.

    Do you think by mass hiring Mods/Guardians is smart? I doubt so. Mass hiring = Mass banning. Do you really want to lose players when you need them, especially since this is an MMO Sandbox (and there might be a lot of potential in the player base you are trying to get rid of). Ubisoft, you have to stress, Growtopia is not about power or fame, it is about socializing, team-work, and most importantly - having fun! Is Growtopia truly about being a Moderator/Guardian?

    Therefore, I've come up with a solution that might become a (big) update for the commuity at least.
    - Maybe Ubisoft, you guys could make a world that is engaging, something that attracts the human eye, that is related to the Growtopia Code, it could include the rules.
    - Maybe you guys can even come up with a QnA with the community - Example can be the one in world: MODERATORS.
    - Games, True Or False, related to the rules.
    - To be honest, if you need help in building that world, you can reach out the Moderators/Guardians or even us - forumers. Growtopia has a diverse and wide community, and that’s for a reason.

    I strongly believe Moderators/Guardians are not all we need (Scoping on the future of Growtopia, there's no need to hire too much of them in the future). I strongly believe to make a better gaming community as well as a much more civil player base, it all starts with each player. We need to encourage the community to read the rules together, to understand it, in a fun and engaging way instead of always focusing on the current Growtopian Code or the rules, they are dull and boring to say the least. There's no point in keep banning players when you know they will come back and do the same, if they are not enlightened with the rules/code.

    "I would go in game, do my moderator stuff like ban people, curse people, do all of that, and it really just felt like I've no effect on the game." - ShadowSURFER
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    I have to agree with this, instead of turning Growtopia into a ban party, we should try highlighting the greater parts of the game, teaching others various ways of having fun, making sure the other player acknowledges the game's rules and learns to play within them.

    The mentorship update was a good initiative, though executed way wrong. Does anyone even remember that the feature exists? I don't really know how it could be improved, but it's really hard to find people to mentor.
    I've met a lot of cool people recently in my world, WHALEKING. I've been sbing there and doing some turkey bashes and whatnot, having fun with the community. It's a real magnet for the good side of GT, really, and I think that's what we're all lacking. Great worlds to hang out in.
    Though WHALEKING's not much of a world, I mean it's interesting, I guess, it has a lot of whales, it's lacking activity. That's where interaction comes into play. The traders leave as soon as they realize they can't profit in the world, leaving in the people just looking to kick back and relax. It's really refreshing.

    Here's what's got me worried, though.
    I'm not trying to boost my ego with this, I swear, but as soon as Growtopians come across a somewhat kind player, they instantly go "this guy is a mod", or "this guy should be a mod". I've got many comments like that, just by treating them like people. It shouldn't be this way.
    It's horrifying to think that Growtopians are so used to the toxicity, that they've forgotten about decency. They can't understand a nice player, that isn't a moderator.
    Being treated well shouldn't feel special. It's everyone's responsibility, in-game and in real life to take care of others, and I swear if people just started to take each others' feelings into consideration, we wouldn't have as much of an issue with casinos and such.

    Scamming is not an issue we can ever put a complete end to. We can, however, improve the current state of Growtopia, but not necessarily with a bigger mod team.


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    Do you really think that csn hosts are kids who just started play gt? We need tons of guardians, who go random world list all the time and cruse those spammers and that way clean this random worlds issue.

    And yes, we also need those rule based true or false games, hosted by mods, so yes, we need more mods who can just host games and teach newbies. Maybe we should have guardians in start world? And their only task would be be in one day per week or month, stand in start and teach newbies? So we need tons of guardians, cause no one wants stand in start every day next 2 years. But if there is 100 guardians, maybe your task to stand in start is once per month or something. Maybe they could even host some games in there, what teach rules?

    And yes, i love the idea about some info world, but how to get ppl in it? Maybe again, we need so many mods that basically one mod is every day in that world and that makes ppl go there.

    I did not use much time for thinking this all, i just give here some raw ideas what someone else can process. lol I hope that ppl give all ideas out, even crazy ones so someone else can think that issue from another perspective and that someone else maybe finds the perfect solution. So pls ppl, brainstorm!

    It has been already a month or more this issue with random world list here. I mean that just a 2 months ago i was almost daily visiting random worlds after farming and socialized very much with random ppl and taught newbies to earn wls. Now, all what i see in random list is csn. I can't reach real new players in any way anymore. I also don't meet ppl anymore and for real, i don't even farm anymore, cause i have nothing nice to do after that. If i try find active worlds, they are all about for rich ppl or fanboys for me, no normal talk. And latest issue what was month ago is that i got bullied very rough way in game (also in social media, but manly in game). Now i don't want go in social worlds cause i don't want get bullied. So past month, i have been online just in guild event, then i log in to get my daily winter tokens and log out right after it and today i was in thanksgiving party, cause there i think i can be in safe.

    Bullies are big issue. Some of ppl can handle them, but i have anxiety disorder and panic disorder and i try survive without heavy medications, so i can't handle them. Those evil kids can crush me with words in just seconds and then i can't come online for days or weeks. I don't know what to do with this issue, cause answer is, "ss doesn't proof anything". So basically they say, you need just tolerate everything or quit. Spreading fake rumors about my personal life is serious issue and it doesn't stop if i ignore those who does it. Then i just can't see that they maybe round me and spam to everyone those lies. So i really don't know what to do.

    What we can do to cyberbullies? We really need some system, how to handle these cases, cause those bullies can actually make me quit and if they can do that, then how many else they can banish from this game? Even one mod has been target of bullies past months and even (s)he has troubles to get over it and live normal life. Gt has so much ppl who has some serious issues, cause they can't see what is right and wrong. Normal ppl would not ever do attacks like these without regret. These kids are sick for real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe
    Do you really think that csn hosts are kids who just started play gt? We need tons of guardians, who go random world list all the time and cruse those spammers and that way clean this random worlds issue.
    - Cursing players, the effect alone only lasts for 8 hours MAX. Players will just come back and do the same, trust me. Saw multiple instances. Be it kids or adults.

    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe
    And yes, we also need those rule based true or false games, hosted by mods, so yes, we need more mods who can just host games and teach newbies. Maybe we should have guardians in start world? And their only task would be be in one day per week or month, stand in start and teach newbies? So we need tons of guardians, cause no one wants stand in start every day next 2 years. But if there is 100 guardians, maybe your task to stand in start is once per month or something. Maybe they could even host some games in there, what teach rules?
    Why not ask/task regular players about making them too? It doesn't need to be a Mod/Guardian to be making those worlds, it will be wonderful if the community gets a chance to collaborate with the moderation team to create something bigger, something better... Something legendary!

    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe
    And yes, i love the idea about some info world, but how to get ppl in it? Maybe again, we need so many mods that basically one mod is every day in that world and that makes ppl go there.
    The world could be advertised in the Growtopia Gazette or just permanent in the home tab/screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe
    I did not use much time for thinking this all, i just give here some raw ideas what someone else can process. lol I hope that ppl give all ideas out, even crazy ones so someone else can think that issue from another perspective and that someone else maybe finds the perfect solution. So pls ppl, brainstorm!
    Every one of em' counts!

    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe
    It has been already a month or more this issue with random world list here. I mean that just a 2 months ago i was almost daily visiting random worlds after farming and socialized very much with random ppl and taught newbies to earn wls. Now, all what i see in random list is csn. I can't reach real new players in any way anymore. I also don't meet ppl anymore and for real, i don't even farm anymore, cause i have nothing nice to do after that. If i try find active worlds, they are all about for rich ppl or fanboys for me, no normal talk. And latest issue what was month ago is that i got bullied very rough way in game (also in social media, but manly in game). Now i don't want go in social worlds cause i don't want get bullied. So past month, i have been online just in guild event, then i log in to get my daily winter tokens and log out right after it and today i was in thanksgiving party, cause there i think i can be in safe.
    Awww, if it was me, I would probably take a day or so off. You have guts! Yes, bullying is a major problem in game. Buttt, we need to take each step at a time if we are to improve the behaviours of growtopians. "Problems are usually difficult to solve, it is very layered, there are many components to it, it is not easy. However on the other hand, solutions are easy to think of." - Dr Phil

    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe
    Bullies are big issue. Some of ppl can handle them, but i have anxiety disorder and panic disorder and i try survive without heavy medications, so i can't handle them. Those evil kids can crush me with words in just seconds and then i can't come online for days or weeks. I don't know what to do with this issue, cause answer is, "ss doesn't proof anything". So basically they say, you need just tolerate everything or quit. Spreading fake rumors about my personal life is serious issue and it doesn't stop if i ignore those who does it. Then i just can't see that they maybe round me and spam to everyone those lies. So i really don't know what to do. What we can do to cyberbullies? We really need some system, how to handle these cases, cause those bullies can actually make me quit and if they can do that, then how many else they can banish from this game? Even one mod has been target of bullies past months and even (s)he has troubles to get over it and live normal life. Gt has so much ppl who has some serious issues, cause they can't see what is right and wrong. Normal ppl would not ever do attacks like these without regret. These kids are sick for real.
    If I was a Moderator/Guardian dealing with this situation, it's going to be really hard - If I was not from Ubisoft/Canadian Team (I have no access to the logs.) It's going to be difficult to follow up because there isn't any proof to back the story.

    I believe by "mass hiring" Moderators/Guardians will not help the situation at all. It is all because the player is not well educated on the rules or have yet to read em'. This applies to A LOT of growtopians.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullifer
    The mentorship update was a good initiative, though executed way wrong. Does anyone even remember that the feature exists? I don't really know how it could be improved, but it's really hard to find people to mentor.
    Not only that, I also found that it literally has not skill involved or whatsoever. Breaking blocks is the only way to show that someone is a committed player, eh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skullifer
    Here's what's got me worried, though.
    I'm not trying to boost my ego with this, I swear, but as soon as Growtopians come across a somewhat kind player, they instantly go "this guy is a mod", or "this guy should be a mod". I've got many comments like that, just by treating them like people. It shouldn't be this way.
    It's horrifying to think that Growtopians are so used to the toxicity, that they've forgotten about decency. They can't understand a nice player, that isn't a moderator.
    Agreed...

    Quote Originally Posted by Skullifer
    Scamming is not an issue we can ever put a complete end to. We can, however, improve the current state of Growtopia, but not necessarily with a bigger mod team.
    100% agree with this line. By moulding a better, more civil community, it starts with the player base itself. No matter how many Moderators/Guardians you guys put it, you find that there will be an ever-lasting line of rule breakers awaiting.
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    The solution in my personal opinion is to hire actual content moderators to actively work to ONLY root out such activities in the game, many moderators aren't constantly on their moderator accounts with only one exception I know of, most would rather play on their regular accounts, have fun, instead of being bogged down with endless messages to serve a community not isn't always very thankful for their service. Now the problem is that Growtopia has cultivated a community where such acts are so well known and widely accessible by new players. The solution is not to hire en-masse, that often leads to bad apples, a great example is in the case of the mass hiring of United States border patrol back in 2013, where more than half of the applicants were then later found to have failed polygraph tests.

    The problem with giving a player this much power is that it can often, very easily be misused and abused. In fact, when it comes to the current moderation team, I certainly do have my doubts about certain members. I believe the only way is for more oversight and for more scrutiny to be placed on them, as well as promoting CERTAIN current guardians to members of the current moderation staff.

    Now will this solve the issue completely? Of course not, but it's about putting a dent in it. The Growtopia community, in my opinion is one of the most interesting ones I've ever seen fostered in a game, especially one predominantly played by younger audiences. I honestly think that if such activity isn't stifled, such as the constant use of RNG in the game mechanics, and the existence of vast illegal activity, many children could be led on the path of gambling and other illicit activities in their day to day life in the future.
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    My penny of thoughts...

    1) CSN in enter screen (is this what it is called? )
    I think this can be solved by changing how worlds appear on the enter screen. Not judging it by the number of people but by the rate of activity, ie breaking, chatting etc. Secondly, forbid world names with CSN related words to appear there. I know this might sound absurd especially to certain world owners but it's the easiest solution albeit with some noticeable ill effects.

    2)Split moderators into teams.
    Moderators can focus on one aspect. ie some mods focus on banning casinos, some mods focus on muting people, some mods focus on banning hackers/auto farmers etc. Splitting the job might work as mods are more focussed on a certain activity. Idk if this has been employed.

    3) We need the community
    Certain outstanding members of the community can be role models for the game. Invite them to educate players on the Code etc. In fact, the members can be from different countries, so that they can communicate in the same language and the connection will be stronger.

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    Funny this thread pops up, considering I was thinking of some things related to this the other day.

    First of all, of course the solution is not to just hire more mods/guardians. In fact, doing that improperly could cause a lot of issues we don't need. As for what Ezzerio said, it is true, we are continuing to ban a ton of casino worlds, but at times it can be overwhelming when you have a growing player base that is exploiting the game and running these types of worlds. Now, do we necessarily want to have mass banning? No, but if it needs to be done, it needs to be done.
    As for the community involvement part/world idea, I had actually suggested that months prior before I became a mod. I can still argue that us being involved with the community has major benefits (and since I became a mod, I can see that), but I can also say that too much community involvement can actually be detrimental. Implementing a world and having us stress the rules/social part of the game won't be enough. The main group we'll be attracting are the players that already follow the rules and want to engage with us mods.
    I hate to also provide the pessimistic view, but it will take a lot more to solve these types of issues...or at least try to minimize them. You have to understand that at this point in the game's life, there are people who will continue to exploit the game for their own benefit and nothing will change. Also consider the game's demographic - trying to convince non-English speaking children is a difficult task when they can easily play the game through casinos and scams. I would love it if Growtopia had gone back to being a game that did not focus on profiting, but rather socializing/world building/creativity. This too is something that will be tough to change - once something (especially games) have been labeled a certain way, and thousands of players model their play around that aspect, it is difficult to convince them otherwise.
    So I understand totally what you are getting at, but as I have said, it will take a much greater effort than a world and our involvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    Just for your information, this thread will include quotes from ShadowSURFER's video, Ezzerio's first Community thread, partly inspired by Skullifer's thread on "Where's the respect?" I'm always very invested into the game's community related stuff and this has been going through my mind lately...

    This is not an attack on anybody. Just viewing my opinion on how we could improve the game's community.


    First and for most, I don't hate any Moderator/Guardian, I truly respect you guys and how you guys shape the community. But are Moderators/Guardians all we need to make a civil community? Well, you can say that we have the rules, Growtopian Code perfectly set up and players could read them. But to be frank, most of the players are kids, looking at a hefty chunk of words, I doubt any of them will read it.

    Quit talking about statistics, if we as players can't really feel them, it will be further clarified below.
    "- Thanks to stronger in-game monitoring, casino bans haven’t been so high in, well, forever."
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    *Literally half of my screen on the home tab is on casinos... Really?
    I do appreciate the Moderators/Guardians efforts in dealing with spammers/casinos/basically rule breakers. I am not against it AT ALL. But just look at the picture... What impressions might that give if I have not read the thread by Ezzerio? What first impressions might it give to a new player? Think about that.

    Do you think by mass hiring Mods/Guardians is smart? I doubt so. Mass hiring = Mass banning. Do you really want to lose players when you need them, especially since this is an MMO Sandbox (and there might be a lot of potential in the player base you are trying to get rid of). Ubisoft, you have to stress, Growtopia is not about power or fame, it is about socializing, team-work, and most importantly - having fun! Is Growtopia truly about being a Moderator/Guardian?

    Therefore, I've come up with a solution that might become a (big) update for the commuity at least.
    - Maybe Ubisoft, you guys could make a world that is engaging, something that attracts the human eye, that is related to the Growtopia Code, it could include the rules.
    - Maybe you guys can even come up with a QnA with the community - Example can be the one in world: MODERATORS.
    - Games, True Or False, related to the rules.
    - To be honest, if you need help in building that world, you can reach out the Moderators/Guardians or even us - forumers. Growtopia has a diverse and wide community, and that’s for a reason.

    I strongly believe Moderators/Guardians are not all we need (Scoping on the future of Growtopia, there's no need to hire too much of them in the future). I strongly believe to make a better gaming community as well as a much more civil player base, it all starts with each player. We need to encourage the community to read the rules together, to understand it, in a fun and engaging way instead of always focusing on the current Growtopian Code or the rules, they are dull and boring to say the least. There's no point in keep banning players when you know they will come back and do the same, if they are not enlightened with the rules/code.

    "I would go in game, do my moderator stuff like ban people, curse people, do all of that, and it really just felt like I've no effect on the game." - ShadowSURFER
    I experienced the same thing as you.
    A half of my "home screen" in my gt is a casino world.
    Then i think if we need added some moderator again, the better moderator than before.

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    I can agree, that moderators/guardians aren't the only solution. But we need them (idk if I have ever met a guardian tho), not only for punishing, but guiding players how to play fair by growtopian rules. They should also be some kind of a glue in the community. That work can't be done properly without enough mods/guardians.

    I also agree with QueenChloe about bullying being a big problem. Cyberbullying is a huge problem today and we shouldn't allow that in the community. When players ask me to help them by talking to the person who scammed them or bullies them I know, that after talking to them I will get bullied also. But every time I'm surprised how huge the attack towards me is. They insult every way they can. And I'm not bothered of random insults that they spit out of their mouths. But the more they know things about you, the more incisive and and insulting the attacks can be. And then they even ask their fellow players to msg me very insulting things. And it can continue for days.

    Bullying can be about age (too young or too old), skin color, family, school, immigration, health issues, almost anything. It's so easy to bully anonymously or even on Discord (bullies ask players often to go and argue there). So this should be stopped and hire mods/guardians to prevent/solve these situations either by talking or punishing. This also requires language skills, because players speak so many different languages.

    Growtopia is supposed to be fun. And have you considered, that Growtopia can be a good hiding place or safe haven for people (irl bullied, down and out, health issues etc.)? Our community should enable enjoyable gaming experience for everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    Do you think by mass hiring Mods/Guardians is smart? I doubt so. Mass hiring = Mass banning. Do you really want to lose players when you need them, especially since this is an MMO Sandbox (and there might be a lot of potential in the player base you are trying to get rid of). Ubisoft, you have to stress, Growtopia is not about power or fame, it is about socializing, team-work, and most importantly - having fun! Is Growtopia truly about being a Moderator/Guardian?
    Moderators and Guardians punish casinos that usually comprise of a lot of participants, thus when nuking casinos, a lot of players do get punished. Yeah, this may be seen as mass banning, but I don't think it is healthy for the community at all to let these people free and not ban them. Moderators punish the players that need to be punished and since casinos are an ever-growing problem, a lot of people do get banned.

    The sad thing, the main demographic of Growtopia are kids who averagely aren't as morally developed. There are a lot of social aspects that come into play when talking about Growtopia and how the game's main motive for players has shifted over the years to encompass power and fame. People are greedy and because this is all virtual connection, sympathy and empathy are harder to see since most of that comes from body language, tone of voice and facial expression. It will be incredibly difficult for Ubisoft to change such as it is how the game has evolved around the economy and from a business standpoint and the game's well-being, Seth and Hamumu and Ubisoft do cater to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    Therefore, I've come up with a solution that might become a (big) update for the commuity at least.
    - Maybe Ubisoft, you guys could make a world that is engaging, something that attracts the human eye, that is related to the Growtopia Code, it could include the rules.
    - Maybe you guys can even come up with a QnA with the community - Example can be the one in world: MODERATORS.
    - Games, True Or False, related to the rules.
    - To be honest, if you need help in building that world, you can reach out the Moderators/Guardians or even us - forumers. Growtopia has a diverse and wide community, and that’s for a reason.
    Even if people read the rules, do they really sink into them? Honestly, when was the last time someone actively read all of the rules, guidelines or regulations of a game, school, facility or such. It's down to common sense really - how you act, behave and interact with others.
    Some people - especially kids (the primary demographic of this game) - just do not comprehend the weight of rules and being decent people. Though the constant reiteration of the rules may work for some, it will be unlikely to work for all. After all, what reason would there be for these players to want to do a rules quiz or QnA? Will there be prizes at the end? Because that will reinforce the nature of greed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    Do you think by mass hiring Mods/Guardians is smart? I doubt so. Mass hiring = Mass banning.
    While mass banning has its effects on reducing the player base, it's an absolute necessity when players break the rules. When playing this game, you are agreeing to play by the rules. As a toddler, you start to gain the idea of what's right from wrong - so why should it be different for a game that you have to be 12 years or older to play? If players don't read rules and get banned, it is primarily their own fault as they are prompted to read the rules when they first play. Therefore, as long as players still break rules, of course there will be mass bannings as it has to be done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    But are Moderators/Guardians all we need to make a civil community? Well, you can say that we have the rules, Growtopian Code perfectly set up and players could read them. But to be frank, most of the players are kids, looking at a hefty chunk of words, I doubt any of them will read it.
    Without moderators, Growtopia would be a hub for scammers - and broadcasts would be nothing but a void filled with illegal activities. However, thanks to the current moderators, we don't see all of the 'dark side of Growtopia'. And because moderators are humans just like us, they need to sleep and eat just like us. This means that moderators are always not on and therefore, people do get away with breaking the rules and broadcasting illegal activities sometimes. However, if they were to recruit more Guardians and Moderators who are suited for the role, the chances of people getting away with breaking these rules are decreased drastically. If people who are recruited to the team are trained right, a moderator's decision can be the best decision for the game even if they was to ban everyone in a casino world, it shows to the rest of the players that the game is thoroughly moderated and therefore, people will most likely follow the rules so they don't lose their account. If there was a batch of moderators and people came across illegal activity, people can distribute messages to them evenly instead of everyone spamming one moderator at once which will overwhelm them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    Literally half of my screen on the home tab is on casinos... Really?
    I do appreciate the Moderators/Guardians efforts in dealing with spammers/casinos/basically rule breakers. I am not against it AT ALL. But just look at the picture... What impressions might that give if I have not read the thread by Ezzerio? What first impressions might it give to a new player? Think about that.
    That's a different issue though, just because they are featured momentarily does not mean that they are not banned eventually. That they are featured, is indeed is wrong, but unrelated to the amount of bans. We're on this, but it's tricky to say the least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    Do you think by mass hiring Mods/Guardians is smart? I doubt so. Mass hiring = Mass banning. Do you really want to lose players when you need them, especially since this is an MMO Sandbox (and there might be a lot of potential in the player base you are trying to get rid of). Ubisoft, you have to stress, Growtopia is not about power or fame, it is about socializing, team-work, and most importantly - having fun! Is Growtopia truly about being a Moderator/Guardian?
    We're going to introduce a few at a time and scale up the team going forward, however we're not setting a specific goal right now. Quality over Quantity. The team and I have worked on a clearer process for the recruitment. I agree that adding 100+ at a time would be a bit bonkers. We want to avoid abuse of power at all cost and with hundreds of Guardians that eventually just happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    Therefore, I've come up with a solution that might become a (big) update for the commuity at least.
    - Maybe Ubisoft, you guys could make a world that is engaging, something that attracts the human eye, that is related to the Growtopia Code, it could include the rules.
    - Maybe you guys can even come up with a QnA with the community - Example can be the one in world: MODERATORS.
    - Games, True Or False, related to the rules.
    - To be honest, if you need help in building that world, you can reach out the Moderators/Guardians or even us - forumers. Growtopia has a diverse and wide community, and that’s for a reason.
    I agree, this is a good idea in general. The MODERATORS world also needs some adjustments by now. We're going to add this to our list in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    I strongly believe Moderators/Guardians are not all we need (Scoping on the future of Growtopia, there's no need to hire too much of them in the future). I strongly believe to make a better gaming community as well as a much more civil player base, it all starts with each player. We need to encourage the community to read the rules together, to understand it, in a fun and engaging way instead of always focusing on the current Growtopian Code or the rules, they are dull and boring to say the least. There's no point in keep banning players when you know they will come back and do the same, if they are not enlightened with the rules/code.
    I think there is a general misconception what the Guardians do. They don't only ban, they also assist the broader team with activities. The more guardians we have, the more events, games and meetups we can host with the community. Yes, just increasing the amount of bans will not help us, creating more engagement, educating, where we can and banning where we need to, is the right way to go.

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