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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    Or maybe stop the timer when the player leaves the game. Lol! +1
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    - Stop timer whenever player leaves 'HELL', let him/her have a fair punishment.
    - Rules provided there.
    - Private room, little area, claustrophobic.
    - Limit to 1 person/world, and not groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    - Stop timer whenever player leaves 'HELL', let him/her have a fair punishment.
    - Rules provided there.
    - Private room, little area, claustrophobic.
    - Limit to 1 person/world, and not groups.
    Remove their ability to build, use consumables or use any commands.

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    Personally, I think that HELL shouldn’t be accessible by non-cursed players, it’s always better to separate the punished and the good players - not interacting with people who are already punished is a good idea to avoid unnecessary trouble.

    Update: I just realised it’s inaccessible. Thanks for letting me know lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winwood View Post
    Personally, I think that HELL shouldn’t be accessible by non-cursed players, it’s always better to separate the punished and the good players - not interacting with people who are already punished is a good idea to avoid unnecessary trouble.
    It is already unaccessible by non-cursed players.

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    Remove their ability to build, use consumables or use any commands.
    Will update tomorrow! Thanks! It’s been a while lol!
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    Disoriented debuff for all the players, the debuff no only affect their movement, but also the sound effects of their action, jumping sound effect and punching being swapped for example.
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    Put a small space underneath bedrock in HEAVEN and let them roam in that space.(while removing their ability to chat ofc)
    This way you can shame them as well as reduce fun and induce claustrophobic phobias
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    "Correctional facilities in Norway focus on the care of the offender and making sure they can become a functioning member of society again. Norway has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world, currently 20%, with approximately 3,933 offenders in prison, and one of the lowest crime rates in the world." - Incarceration in Norway - Wikipedia

    So instead of punishing bad player, why don't we give them what they really need or create a chance for them to get what they need? People doing bad and illegal things not because they're wanted to do so, it's because they lack of what they need. Kids whose lack of parent loves will became disruptive to get their parent attention. People do crimes and bad things just because they need money to do & buy what they addicted to such as games, drugs,... And the reason why they're addicted to them it's because they're lack of love, they're alone, lonely, they're boring, they don't have dream or just simply give up on their dream. So they're fall into those death trap of life and most of us, the society, basically is running away from them.
    So please, re-think about this, deeply. This game is basically the real life world, and we need to do something about it, as well in life, to other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillCraft View Post
    "Correctional facilities in Norway focus on the care of the offender and making sure they can become a functioning member of society again. Norway has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world, currently 20%, with approximately 3,933 offenders in prison, and one of the lowest crime rates in the world." - Incarceration in Norway - Wikipedia

    So instead of punishing bad player, why don't we give them what they really need or create a chance for them to get what they need? People doing bad and illegal things not because they're wanted to do so, it's because they lack of what they need. Kids whose lack of parent loves will became disruptive to get their parent attention. People do crimes and bad things just because they need money to do & buy what they addicted to such as games, drugs,... And the reason why they're addicted to them it's because they're lack of love, they're alone, lonely, they're boring, they don't have dream or just simply give up on their dream. So they're fall into those death trap of life and most of us, the society, basically is running away from them.
    So please, re-think about this, deeply. This game is basically the real life world, and we need to do something about it, as well in life, to other people.
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    I think limiting to one person per world would lag the servers out, how many players are cursed daily?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillCraft View Post
    "Correctional facilities in Norway focus on the care of the offender and making sure they can become a functioning member of society again. Norway has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world, currently 20%, with approximately 3,933 offenders in prison, and one of the lowest crime rates in the world." - Incarceration in Norway - Wikipedia

    So instead of punishing bad player, why don't we give them what they really need or create a chance for them to get what they need? People doing bad and illegal things not because they're wanted to do so, it's because they lack of what they need. Kids whose lack of parent loves will became disruptive to get their parent attention. People do crimes and bad things just because they need money to do & buy what they addicted to such as games, drugs,... And the reason why they're addicted to them it's because they're lack of love, they're alone, lonely, they're boring, they don't have dream or just simply give up on their dream. So they're fall into those death trap of life and most of us, the society, basically is running away from them.
    So please, re-think about this, deeply. This game is basically the real life world, and we need to do something about it, as well in life, to other people.
    Not all rule-breakers are experiencing this issue. This is an online game, Growtopia. There are rules for a reason, break it and receive a punishment. What will you give them? Their dream item? Meet a Mod? A wand? An ability to do something that others can't do? Or something non-material? Love? How? Attention? How?

    It's always up to the player if they follow the rules or not. This game is NOT basically the real life world and never ANYWHERE near it. This is an online game that have rules to follow. We don't have psychiatrists, therapists, and psychologists to determine if their life problems are the ones telling them to break the rules in Growtopia.

    This is Growtopia, not some sort of real life BS. In real life, people may be doing crimes because they lack of something, and that's REAL LIFE. In Growtopia, people may be doing crimes because they just NEED world locks or they just want to have fun, and that's not how players should treat an online game. In a game, there are rules. Break them and you're out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    As part of trying to help make the community more civil and respectful, I believe by improving the world 'HELL' for cursed players will be a good start. It's alright if you do not agree with me, comment below, I want to know what you guys think too!

    Yes, 'HELL' is definitely not a place you would want to visit. Let's keep this an open forum, comment below if you think of any ideas. I'll take into consideration on every post and maybe make a compilation if it's needed.

    As you know from my other thread, I'm a very optimistic person, talk about the Growtopia community. Let's get this straight, we all want the community to improve in terms of behaviours and attitude.

    The world 'HELL' basically serves as a "Growtopia prison" but it looks like to me a "Growtopia toxic playhouse". You're letting "toxic" players get together and having fun in the world. I don't think 'HELL' is really very useful - as of what it seems to be. You basically have access to your items, access to dropping stuff, access to building in the world. What if players there are continuing to play drop games/trust tests there? Or having toxic chat talks? I doubt that any Moderator will re-check the worlds again and again. And once the timer stops, players can leave 'HELL', they will continue playing those kinds of illegal games.

    I know many of you - from my recent threads disagree with stressing the rules on players, saying that it will not get into their heads. Let's look at the bright side, I've seen this sentence in a thread before, kids are usually ignorant but more easier to teach. From my other threads, some forumers mentioned about Growtopia's demography, suggesting that the population was really almost all kids, kind of like a label to Growtopia already. However, I believe by stressing the rules in 'HELL' for the not-so-severe game-breakers, even if they are kids, that it could change their mentality and maybe make them better growtopians. I know it's easier said than done.

    So what kinds of transformation for 'HELL'?
    - Unaccess dropping items, placing items to avoid scams or illegal activity.
    - reiterate the rules. Upon entering 'HELL' /rules will automatically appear, signs of rules will be scattered everywhere!
    - Mute players to avoid toxic talks.

    RULES

    - Rules should cover different languages, so there will not be any language barriers.
    - Rules should be more clear and cohorent.
    e.g. Out of game buying/selling Growtopia accounts, items or worlds is not allowed and may result in ban. - Explain, since many growtopians are kids, explain. Elaborate further so that they could get an idea, could elaborate on different kinds of situations.
    - Add in pictures for what is illegal and legal. If this could be implemented it will be a game changer. - Visual is something the rules lack in my opinion. Some of the growtopians prefer visuals instead of words.
    - Could make a world, example: STOPDONTDROP. Doesn't need to be "Play To Win" kinda worlds...
    I know some of you guys think it'll need more than just a world and moderators, but I strongly believe it does impact the community in a way. Growtopians still remember the world although it has been created 5 years ago, they still go there to view/hang out/invite new players to know more about the dangers of drop games. There is an impact.

    Valid Community Suggestions:
    - Stop timer whenever player leaves 'HELL', let him/her have a fair punishment.
    - Rules provided there.
    - Private room, little area, claustrophobic.
    - Limit to 1 person/world, and not groups.

    What do you guys think?
    In my opinion, HELL is practically useless.

    "Curses" should be permanently removed in the game. If they do something bad, automatically banned for a couple of days only. How do you actually teach them? You can't. Even if you give them a quiz, they'll just memorize the answers so that if they cursed again, they'll just answer the same thing. What's the purpose of HELL? What should be its purpose? NOTHING. It's something useless, it's shouldn't be a school in a prison for the system to teach these rule-breakers. Do you think they'll follow? They'll listen? They'll change? It's up to them to reflect their wrong-doings and banning them is just the perfect punishment.

    STOPDONTDROP is already getting forgotten. It's because not many knows about it. The problem here is that Growtopia keeps doing something using the gameplay of Growtopia, they're acting like normal players building a world and such. Where are their "developer" and "programming" powers? They are supposed to make systems for a purpose right? Not something where they place signs and put text saying "Yeah, this is like that.." like duh, who would spend their time reading a bunch of signs.

    If HELL would stay, socializing shouldn't be allowed at all. Just like you said, make it a claustrophobic place. Make them wait until the curse is done. A player must be only cursed once. The next time they do something bad, they're banned. HELL shouldn't be a place for freedom but a place for punishment.
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    So why are we playing this game? Why're they playing it? Why're you playing it?
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    Whats the point of "HELL" if there is nothing to do there? At what point is it no longer a curse and pretty much just a ban?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astigmatisme View Post
    3. In every section, two of the three smaller corridors contains a "Halloween surprise" that would scare the living out of whoever passes it (could be some kind of jumpscare) and sends them back to the first section. This means that if you got trapped at section 14, you're going back to section 1. Location of the "jolly fun surprise" changes for every world instance. Now it's a proper hell!
    4. After passing the long corridor, the player is then brought into a central HELL world decorated red, where everyone else who passed through the literal hell would also end up at. The world is properly royal-locked, so that no one can do anything but communicate via. PMs. This would encourage players to pass the hell just to have some company.
    Might be effective for older players, but younger players might be traumatised by this.
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    Turn hell into a land of fire and brimstone, to make all the rule breaker suffer for what they’ve done, twist their form into an indescribable mess, alter their voice into a scream of pain and agony, there are no sun there, are no moon only a rain of fire that sometimes fall upon the land burning everyone in the world, do you think the white door is a safe place? Think again @Satan is now back to bring pain and torture those in this endless punishment of HELL, a place where there are no freedom, the scream of death are altered make it more and more ear piercing not to mention you’re not gonna hear 1 scream you gonna hear dozens of scream from the rule breaker as they are punished this is HELL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JicinIsInvalid View Post
    Make hell live up to it's name.

    I suggest that a cursed player must undergo a period of one hour in pure isolation. Ubisoft should revamp the world HELL to make it appear as a type of limbo, plain, empty and disturbing.

    Also I think having the timer only progress whenever the player is moving is a great punishment, as well as restarting the timer if a player disconnects or closes the app.

    It's like one of those torture chambers in those ministries where they leave a criminal or defect in a white room with no entertainment whatsoever.
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    Make them subject to the maw of Molok, let their blood drain from their eyes as they stare at the screen horrified of what’s becoming of them, let them render without life for moments, and then revive them teaching them a lesson of which rules must never be broken.

    May the curse of Sami fall upon those rule breakers.
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