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    " The Problems It Gave: "
    - Fake Mods Applications
    Random people trying to create fake mod apps just to hack others. Pathetic.
    - A more toxic community
    - A negative desire to gain power and fame

    So by discarding the idea of moderator applications being done on websites, you hope to demolish these problems?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyeosi View Post
    " The Problems It Gave: "
    - Fake Mods Applications
    Random people trying to create fake mod apps just to hack others. Pathetic.
    - A more toxic community
    - A negative desire to gain power and fame

    So by discarding the idea of moderator applications being done on websites, you hope to demolish these problems?
    Well, it could have an effect on the fake mod appls. On the community side, it will definitely need more than just the removal/reservation of appls.
    There are a lot of components in problems, it is complex. Mod appls are just one of the factors in that complexity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    What assumptions did I make based on how they were chosen?
    "It is usually opens every once in a blue moon and is found in the Gazette."
    > The applications have only ever been released once, so its frequency is undeterminable. If I recall, the applications were found on the website if you looked and advertised on the forums (they may have also been mentioned in the Gazette but I don't think there was any direct link from there).

    "I feel that it's misleading to the developers, staffs and the community in actual fact."
    > I don't think they are misleading whatsoever. This assumption comes from the idea that children - though, a moderator is rarely chosen from that youthful demographic anyways - will attempt to deceive their way into becoming a moderator. Moderator applications were the players advertising themselves in a way that is an incentive towards the developers so that they appear appropriate for the position. This is why they do thorough research into the possible candidate so that their choice is appropriate - this is why it took long and was slow. Seth and Hamumu were two people, Ubisoft is 10x+ more than that. I don't think it was a "time waste" but rather just time-consuming.

    "A negative desire to gain power and fame"
    > Where does this assumption come from though?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    They do in my opinion. The Growtopia community is very complex in a way, there must be something which triggered their desire of power/fame/getting richer, and one of them is the Mod/(Future Guard if there is) application.
    The Growtopia community is very reflective of the actual society. The desire for greed and status came from the attention and power the rich players got early on. The more world locks you had, the more things you could buy. The more world locks you had, the higher your status was. It's the same reason why everyone in society seeks fame and fortune; everybody wants success.

    Moderators were designed in a way that made them noticeable (which some can argue is both bad and good). This ties into the status symbol they hold and the power they manifest. This is appealing to players (especially to young developing minds) as:
    - they have ability to punish players, i.e. control the player base somewhat
    - abilities to separate them from other players, i.e. able to go through blocks
    - ability to teleport to players without their consent, i.e. power over them
    - their obtrusive nametag, i.e. status symbol

    Toxicity does not arise from the applications themselves because they do not elicit any of these traits, but rather the actual design of moderators themselves do. The application is a mere gateway to becoming a moderator to a degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilikecats View Post
    They should really pick the older accounts tbh. Since the older accounts have more experience with the game
    Some old growtopians who are playing the game for more than 3-4 years sometimes creates new accounts for themselves so selecting old accounts isn't really a good filter.
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    Hi all,

    We know that these fake application sites are a big issue. Even after months we still see players fall for it in the hopes to be a Moderator. At the same time we see that it makes little sense for us to have Guardians and Moderators and separated recruitment for each. We identified a set amount of criteria that a Guardian must meet. For example, we will not except players below 16 years of age. And you will have to prove a certain amount of game experience.

    The application will be relatively simple, and only on the Gazette, but the requirements will be tough for new players, unfortunately. We need to make sure to find the right players, they need to be trustworthy, experienced and eager to help the community. That's for Guardians. If a Guardian grows in their role, we're going to promote them eventually, but that process will be internal. Furthermore, if we see a Guardian not being fit to be a Moderator (yet) they won't become one and if we even see that they are not able to fulfill the role as Guardian, they will be demoted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokekid123 View Post
    Except!
    I believe the Moderator Applications should just be reserved for persons that Ubisoft finds potential in being a real Moderator. It should signify as a confirmation and it helps amplify the potential that the person has.
    - Ubisoft should PM them the Application with questions on the forums. List all instructions clearly. Not using a website.
    With the amount of applications we would get on the forums, it would be very insufficient to treat every application fairly. The entry point will be Guardian via survey application as well as a background check on our end. Only if you pass both you will be considered as a potential Guardian. The number will be limited though each time we recruit, hence we're only going to choose the most suited. From then, we have just a few players to monitor and see if they are a good fit — and they will actually have to prove themselves before they are given more power and become a Moderator.

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    Pretty sure everything is cleared up as of now since Baskerville stated that they won't accept those under the age of 16 (lucky me )

    So to the like 60% of gt's community goodluck, get old, and have fun
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    I think anyone who will become mods is good. but remember this. if you choose ordinary people become mods. Growtopia players who are already famous and for years promoting this game will be sad/disappointed. if mods are given to famous people then everyone will compete to become famous. being mods is everyone's dream. except me. because I already know that hackers, casinos, spammers, scammers, etc never die. very tiring.
    Oh yeah, I made Instagram (instagram: Galastiz) to help newbie to get rich and suggest play Growtopia game. If you have any problm, maybe i can help because I played this game more than 5 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galastiz View Post
    I think anyone who will become mods is good. but remember this. if you choose ordinary people become mods. Growtopia players who are already famous and for years promoting this game will be sad/disappointed. if mods are given to famous people then everyone will compete to become famous. being mods is everyone's dream. except me. because I already know that hackers, casinos, spammers, scammers, etc never die. very tiring.
    Oh yeah, I made Instagram (instagram: Galastiz) to help newbie to get rich and suggest play Growtopia game. If you have any problm, maybe i can help because I played this game more than 5 years
    Well, they didn't exactly mention that they won't recruit old or famous players at all, but they also didn't mention that they will only recruit them aswell. So I'm guessing the final end result is going to end up being an even-enough mix of some old, very experienced players, along with some slightly new, but trustworthy and caring players who are found to be well-fitted for the role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baskerville View Post
    We identified a set amount of criteria that a Guardian must meet. For example, we will not except players below 16 years of age. And you will have to prove a certain amount of game experience.

    ~ Baskerville
    So how are you guys going to verify age? I can be doing the surveys and saying that I’m 26 years old while in fact I’m 13. (Not true. Just for an example.)
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