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    Post I just realized how VERY poor, people are in this game

    For those who had already read the post, good for you.

    But after awhile I realized there's no point in posting on forum on subjects or perspectives on the obvious any longer.

    Cause for some reason, it feels discouraging bringing something small up and it later becomes slightly disturbing to those who disagree. People start replying to these subjects in such a hostile-like manner, pointing out every slight flaws, criticizing to the depths of the post, from grammars to practically anything. It also doesn't just stops there, it later extends to further disputes, in which later becomes a total warzone in some other threads. And it's been like this probably even before I joined. It's like a mini warzone within threads between people who believe their right, instead of discussing and asking themselves, Does this guy sound logical to a degree? Instead of I'm rich, I have these benefits. Those below seem like their doing well, cause I'm doing well. So their doing good. And yeah, well who gives a shet about others after that, right?

    If I was so much an a- hole to you then you have my apology. But this is the forum, we can joke, we can laugh, we can discuss. But when there are those who notice there may be flaws in this game. Give your perspective. Not some 9th grade annotation level post like this eaxmple.


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    It's post like this which disturbs me. It's post like this which aggravates others. Aggravates others including me. And the guy who posted this underneath my discussion. I apologize for my reply.
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    Welcome to the economy.

    It works like this in real life aswell; the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Nothing we can do about it.

    Also your point wasn't valid half the time.

    I fail to understand.
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    not our fault they arent rich, if they arent smart enough to farm, then dont play
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Welcome to the economy.

    It works like this in real life aswell; the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Nothing we can do about it.

    Also your point wasn't valid half the time.

    I fail to understand.
    I need to find a game that improvised shet that their player based had doubts on but actually made the game improve. Kinda fail the "And.. you get the point" part of my post.

    So yea its no wonder you fail to understand that's mb

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsKyan View Post
    not our fault they arent rich, if they arent smart enough to farm, then dont play
    But I-I- I farm, and I'm not enough rich.
    O how little

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsKyan View Post
    not our fault they arent rich, if they arent smart enough to farm, then dont play
    The thing is farming is the lowest profitable ways to earn wl. You have to be rich in order to be rich. eg. Ssp/rsp/surg vend/BFG you have to start from very high amount of budget

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    Keep in mind that majority of those who are rich now started in the same place that those you are advocating for have
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkyoKuonji View Post
    The thing is farming is the lowest profitable ways to earn wl. You have to be rich in order to be rich. eg. Ssp/rsp/surg vend/BFG you have to start from very high amount of budget
    Exactly GooD Damn point.

    In order to BE RICH YOU GOTTA BE RICH. That's the game. You see exactly my point.
    O how little

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatertots View Post
    Keep in mind that majority of those who are rich now started in the same place that those you are advocating for have
    And some of them doing illegal things or just spent lots of money on gt.

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    That the king may be a crook

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatertots View Post
    Keep in mind that majority of those who are rich now started in the same place that those you are advocating for have
    But nowadays methods are different in becoming rich...

    Quote Originally Posted by UkyoKuonji View Post
    And some of them doing illegal things or just spent lots of money on gt.
    YES YES…

    For me to be rich, I gotta sell my ghc. And when I sell my ghc, I'm back to being rich again.

    Now, people do illegal things because this entire economy is practically asking for it. Like who wishes to mass or expend so much time for a couple of dls when you can do a single game of casino and get a big win.

    And because of these methods more people play casino, and so what about the noobs who don't know casinos or have a reason to expend so much time for a couple of dls. They would just stay poor and ask for donations.
    O how little

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    Ok buy ghc 2wls.
    Im poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R4Z View Post
    Ok buy ghc 2wls.
    Im poor.
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    Like the people in buyghc, I see lvl 43 selling something in the range of 50 dls or so
    Why are you comparing with extremes?
    Also, would you consider 50dls "rich"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ScammePlse View Post
    But nowadays methods are different in becoming rich...
    No they're not that different.
    The best ways at profiting are still calculated profits through creative investements and projects.
    If you compare someone who'll blindly open a ssp shop because many others are doing it so it must be profitable while only relying on cheap prices and sbs (undefined cost) to attract customers and having no clue how to run a shop, hoping for the big bucks (abbreaviate that and you'll have a good chunk of gts poorer players) with someone that doesn't act purely on impulse and spends time reflecting and predictively comparing options then you're going to have a bad time.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScammePlse View Post
    But nowadays methods are different in becoming rich...
    YES YES…

    For me to be rich, I gotta sell my ghc. And when I sell my ghc, I'm back to being rich again.

    Now, people do illegal things because this entire economy is practically asking for it. Like who wishes to mass or expend so much time for a couple of dls when you can do a single game of casino and get a big win.

    And because of these methods more people play casino, and so what about the noobs who don't know casinos or have a reason to expend so much time for a couple of dls. They would just stay poor and ask for donations.
    I honestly doubt any of the currently active wealthiest players earned substantial portions of their wealth by participanting in casinos.
    This sounds very delusional.

    I also don't think that making wls continously and unconditionally easier for everyone to obtain is in any way a smart idea as it would just increase inflation.

    People do illegal things because there's no noteworthy regulation enforcement or fun and (obvious) rewarding activities.
    The soon-to-be game guardians might help with shady activities, but the very homogene farming environment is admittedly quite a problem.


    Quote Originally Posted by ScammePlse View Post
    It's incredible how useful items are being denied from being created due to their "overpowerness"
    You know surprising enough the only damn items that given people who are new, a potential high profit were the rayman fist and magplants. Like whoever was during the time when those items were released, they just went from poverty level to probably top 1% now
    Everyone still has the opportunity to purchase those "overpowered" items within a somewhat reasonable period of time.
    I've met (very few) people that reached 40-50dl net worth after a few months through hard work on a fresh account asking for advice while I get asked many times daily for donations - regularly even trying to make me feel guilty about them being scammed often, celebrating their third birthday this year, or being unable to achieve their "dream set".
    Top 1% is top 1% for a reason.

    Comparing with magplants and rayman fist is also not exactly fair, as those were incredibly rare occasions.
    More recent "high profit opportunities" would be anything related to winter fest or recent updates like the surgery one which caused wotd trophies to explode and people to grind bobs.
    It's just that the majority of people naturally notice those only after the train has already left the station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScammePlse View Post
    *Edited the whole thing a bit*

    Even after all the decrease in farmable prices, bait prices, and item prices for more easy access for newbies to earn world locks. And also the increase in world locks donated, world locks scammed, vend scams, casinos, ssp worlds and rsp worlds for others to illegally/legally gain world locks themselves...

    Their still so poor! (I wanna tear my hair out)

    Like the people in buyghc, I see lvl 43 selling something in the range of 50 dls or so and nobody would even wish to buy his item because they either are selling something else or simply not able to afford it. (And don't explain this, if you got an idea of what its like then keep it to yourself)

    What I'm trying to request is to somehow raise the economy to a range where even newbies can eventually catch up to as many wls as others have at a decent pace. And afford the stuff that others can to keep up their progression.

    You know surprising enough the only damn items that given people who are new, a potential high profit were the rayman fist and magplants. Like whoever was during the time when those items were released, they just went from poverty level to probably top 1% now

    It's incredible how useful items are being denied from being created due to their "overpowerness". Well, I probably shouldn't quote that word but considering this game and how players' reactions to 3 block punches is like "OMG ACTUALLY INSANE! MINDBLOWING! And collecting block/seed machine IS ACTUALLY NERF NERF NERF!!! they would say.

    But to add on, its also because of players' worried expectations of this game in general and that they think it should be fair and balanced, even though the whole damn economy is already unbalanced, and well... having rich people being richer and richer and poor being poorer and poorer isn't either what I would call fair too.

    *Edit* Someone just mention something and it hit me that growtopia is now rarely someone growing from poor to rich. That's the old economy. Now it's if you wanna be rich you actually have to start rich. If someone plans on massing, question yourself. Do you think you got the damn determination that last, to mass for weeks, months, years...

    Creating useful items might (Eh, you never know ) break the economy, but for some reason, I see it as a way to break through poverty, so then there's more people rich.

    And more people rich = more dls

    And more dls = Oh look! Someone is selling a ghc, please if you got the money check it out, he's quite desperate but don't take him for granted

    https://www.growtopiagame.com/forums...-dls-can-lower



    P.S. My bum bum hurts from sitting in buyghc for 5 hrs which is the supposed trade world to trade GHC and yet THERE'S NO BUYERS AND I WANNA CRY but everyone is able to sell everything else but me. *������, unfortunately I inserted a cry emoji from another website which got denied and so I'm left without tears*

    I hope I don't get an infraction for this.

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    Gems are harder to obtain last time, with BFGs and other methods, it's definitely much easier now.

    In my opinion, getting richer was harder before. It is so much easier now

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    Quote Originally Posted by HugeLock View Post

    I hope I don't get an infraction for this.
    I aga reeeeeeeee with that comrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrects View Post
    Gems are harder to obtain last time, with BFGs and other methods, it's definitely much easier now.

    In my opinion, getting richer was harder before. It is so much easier now
    Also I 100% agree with this. It may not make you Jamew7 rich but you can still get paid ez money

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLixx View Post
    Why are you comparing with extremes?
    Also, would you consider 50dls "rich"?
    I lowkey feel like I'm about to argue against a Growtopia "boomer". Like you probably got your nice advantages like medicare, and social security benefits going on in Growtopia.

    And by the look of your forum joined date, 2013. I'm assuming your rich and that's the reason your asking me this question.

    But to answer it, Yes! 50 dls is what I would consider "rich".

    Quote Originally Posted by DeLixx View Post
    No they're not that different.
    The best ways at profiting are still calculated profits through creative investements and projects.
    If you compare someone who'll blindly open a ssp shop because many others are doing it so it must be profitable while only relying on cheap prices and sbs (undefined cost) to attract customers and having no clue how to run a shop, hoping for the big bucks (abbreaviate that and you'll have a good chunk of gts poorer players) with someone that doesn't act purely on impulse and spends time reflecting and predictively comparing options then you're going to have a bad time.
    Yes, your so called "creative investments and projects" which requires heavy loads of world locks. Wait no.. diamond locks.. is how you prove me right. Right from the start.

    In order to become rich, you gotta start off rich.

    WWOAH WOAH HOLD UP!

    Your saying, the best way to profit is through someone opening a ssp shop and in order to make it profitable you gotta know your math skills. And if you ain't good at math you fail profiting. So essentially when you narrow down, you still need a ssp shop, and you need vends, and labels, and display blocks, and this and that.. And YOU HAVE TO BE RICH.

    And once again I will say, nowadays methods are different in becoming rich
    Boomer. You know how I profit. I don't use math. You think this years Valentine's day I got the GHC through calculating the probability at which I'll get a GHC. No, I don't. I'm the person who utterly failed math, I got 0 clue on how to profit and yet I do it instinctively and there are people who know me and knows this.

    Edit: Actually I know math

    Someone with math skills that knows how to profit:
    2 wls X2 profit = 4

    Someone with no math skills that knows how to profit:
    2 wls x 2 profit= 4

    Someone who don't know math skills and don't know how to profit:
    2 wls x1 profit = 2


    See the differences? Yes now you know a bit about me I'm the second one.
    Quote Originally Posted by DeLixx View Post
    I honestly doubt any of the currently active wealthiest players earned substantial portions of their wealth by participanting in casinos.
    This sounds very delusional.

    I also don't think that making wls continously and unconditionally easier for everyone to obtain is in any way a smart idea as it would just increase inflation.

    People do illegal things because there's no noteworthy regulation enforcement or fun and (obvious) rewarding activities.
    The soon-to-be game guardians might help with shady activities, but the very homogene farming environment is admittedly quite a problem.
    "Currently active wealthiest players" and "This sounds very delusional"

    You know, you probably been playing this game since 2013. But man have you not seen the OTHER SIDE OF GROWTOPIA.

    It isn't just casinos, that's just one of the ways to gain a lot of dls. There's buying and selling dls. Glitching items for dls, you name it!

    And for you to tell me it sounds delusional. No, it's not and its not about the "current active wealthiest players" but most of the... lmao in your language,
    "current unactive wealthiest players" who mainly do illegal activities in secret so they won't be found. Their the people who might be richer than what your "currently active wealthiest players" are

    I swear you've been playing this game for too long. I said you were a boomer, but now your like a 5 year old on growtopia youtube channels all day thinking rich content creators are utmost best and admiring them. And me posting this thread just tarnished their fame and now your its like you have a screw loose from your head.


    Quote Originally Posted by DeLixx View Post
    Everyone still has the opportunity to purchase those "overpowered" items within a somewhat reasonable period of time.
    I've met (very few) people that reached 40-50dl net worth after a few months through hard work on a fresh account asking for advice while I get asked many times daily for donations - regularly even trying to make me feel guilty about them being scammed often, celebrating their third birthday this year, or being unable to achieve their "dream set".
    Top 1% is top 1% for a reason.

    Comparing with magplants and rayman fist is also not exactly fair, as those were incredibly rare occasions.
    More recent "high profit opportunities" would be anything related to winter fest or recent updates like the surgery one which caused wotd trophies to explode and people to grind bobs.
    It's just that the majority of people naturally notice those only after the train has already left the station.
    Everyone WILL ALWAYS have the opportunity to NOT BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THOSE overp-


    you know what Im done

    dude still think this game is fair and balance. get a different view, try and like see how others are thinking. your argument have flaws that support what I said

    winterfest you need a lot of trees, where do you get a lot of trees get world locks

    surgery: to start off surgery u need wls, U need wls. Sir, U …………………………. need ………………………... World locks.
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    Sure people cheat at the game. Sure people play with a lot of extra income and can just drop a lot of money into the game. Yeah Growtopia can take a serious grind to get anywhere.

    The only person preventing themselves from getting rich is themselves. If it makes them feel better by making up imaginary roadblocks because they don't want to grind so be it.

    I went from farming sugar cane to ATMs. It took me years of grinding. I wanted it that bad I guess. When I started rich people and cheaters existed and none of them stopped me from getting what I want

    Most of those cheaters have been suspended and I'm doing better then they are.

    When I was a noob I couldn't just roll into BFGs and smack high tier farmables for gems either.
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    Truth be told many people got rich through luck and it’s always been that way. Be it Tbobs or ghc. Lucky/smart investments are the other way to earn big.

    I’ve known people (me included) that profited by just being lucky. A buddy of mine who had a g eyehead stopped playing for a bit and when he returned the eye head was 100dls +, ten times the price it was when he was playing. When the sunblade first released I bought it for around 10dls only to return and found out it rose to like 120dls. Though I never actually sold it it was crazy to find out how much luck (especially with the eye head) affects profits.

    Speaking of luck, Casinos are a big one. They are much more hidden now but there are tons of people still at it. And they are just rich, they are usually Uber rich players. A large amount of people that sell illegal Wls online are casino players and have hundreds of thousands of dls in their storage.there are private casinos where rich players meet privately to bet. You barely see large casinos since they aren’t legal anymore, but they are still out there.

    If you wanna really know why the poor don’t get richer and the rich get richer, it’s simply because the poor players that try aren’t that smart. They are following thousand year old lies that gives you little reward for your effort. A big one is farming. Farming is no longer a sustainable income source and it takes too much effort tbh. With all the additions that makes gems easier to obtain the value of wls have dropped from what they used to be.

    If you really grind it out and farm, waste tons of time and maybe you will gain.
    But most of the people telling others to farm probably barely farmed anything or never farmed in the first place. It’s a simple thing to tell people, to “farm”. If someone asks you how to get rich, you say “farm”. Half the poor players only method of profiting is farming, and that’s most likely why they are poor.

    I sometime start to wonder if farming was ever good in the first place since I don’t even remember my farming in the past years actually gave me a good amount of profit for the amount of effort it takes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScammePlse View Post
    Exactly GooD Damn point.

    In order to BE RICH YOU GOTTA BE RICH. That's the game. You see exactly my point.
    makes no sense, i was poor, then now i am rich
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