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    I want just know what rules we can break and what rules we need follow, cause current system is confusing. They have said that selling out game stuff for in game currency is illegal so selling out game art for wls should be illegal if there is no exceptions. And if we have exceptions in rules i need know them. How can i play by the rules if i don't even know rules? I don't want get suspended cause i just didn't know rules.

    Still asking those questions what i added in this threads first post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe View Post
    I want just know what rules we can break and what rules we need follow, cause current system is confusing. They have said that selling out game stuff for in game currency is illegal so selling out game art for wls should be illegal if there is no exceptions. And if we have exceptions in rules i need know them. How can i play by the rules if i don't even know rules? I don't want get suspended cause i just didn't know rules.

    Still asking those questions what i added in this threads first post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe View Post
    I want just know what rules we can break and what rules we need follow, cause current system is confusing. They have said that selling out game stuff for in game currency is illegal so selling out game art for wls should be illegal if there is no exceptions. And if we have exceptions in rules i need know them. How can i play by the rules if i don't even know rules? I don't want get suspended cause i just didn't know rules.

    Still asking those questions what i added in this threads first post.
    Just because you're pissed that there's some kind of exception for a rule, you shouldn't question the others. Vandalism is less of a crime than selling cocaine, murder, or arson. Selling art for wls is NOT the same as selling wls for money. You should know the difference between a small misdemeanor and a drug cartel. Apples and oranges. You're comparing apples and oranges.
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    I'm really baffled as to why this situation is getting out of hand.
    I'm not siding with any part of this, but I would like everyone to consider different sides of this issue.

    I, myself, open commissions 50 WLs each, pay first basis to prevent scam issues, and a 1 month full refund if I don't make it in time or am unable to produce the artwork. Honestly I'd say that if people are vary of me (as an artist) attempting to scam, they shouldn't commission me (or any artists) and just draw their set(s) themselves. Art is also hardwork. Though, I am aware of actual scammers out there pretending to be 'artists' and providing fake or copied artwork or just simply running with the WLs. That's why I don't encourage the trade of art for WLs either, but my commissions are always open, just so people who genuinely like my art would have a chance to get their set(s) drawn at a decent fee. But of course, I value people having their items safe instead of getting them scammed over my own gain for WLs that I actually don't require. In conclusion, I'd say it'd be safest not to commission anyone and just wait for giveaways and such - or just commission someone you're friends with.

    But here's the thing - Ubisoft has its explicit rules, stating the disapproval of selling Growtopia-related artworks (etc.) for real cash and in-game items. I do believe that rules have to be enforced, but the people in charge are not doing a very great job of it. The official Growtopia page features various artists for "Fanart of the Week" and as contest winners, when they're obviously selling artworks. No one is actually punished. But I am aware that the game wouldn't support earning in-game items through doing stuff outside the game, since that does defeat the purpose of the game, and players might lessen due to this.
    I believe that the rules have to be restated or rewritten.

    On the opposing side, yes, selling Growtopia-related artworks shouldn't be illegal, since there are a huge amount of Growtopia-related pages on media site such as Instagram or Youtube. Why wouldn't people want to buy artworks of their Growtopia sets as their profile picture or such? It's a fair deal, considering you're still crediting Ubisoft and Growtopia for the character.

    There is NO reason to be making a big deal out of this.
    I know some of you might think you're trying to help, but by doing this makes the situation worse instead.
    All the unneccessary drama could have been avoided, and opinions and facts should've been respected throughout the debates.
    There are better ways to solve this problem.

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    https://support.ubisoft.com/en-US/Fa...d-content-GROW
    As I said. Ubi didn't place any restrictions on whether or not you can sell art for in game currency/real currency. But is a known FACT that you cannot but things outside of Growtopia for world locks. Taking this into consideration it is obvious that selling art for WLS is illegal as it is technically not a feature of the game.
    TL;DR Selling art for WLS is illegal.

    You cannot sell derivative artworks made of copyrighted characters, and the only exception is if you have written permission from the copyright holder.
    Get Ubi permission and consent BEFORE you sell fan art for money. Selling fanart for WLS is illegal. End of discussion unless a mod comes and says selling fanart for WLS is ok which it shouldn't be.
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    If we have some rules what we need follow and some not, how on earth you think that kids know what they can do? My whole point is: Either start ban or REMOVE THAT RULE!
    Kids can't see difference in rules. If they learn that it is actually totally ok to break rules, then gt will die, cause all break rules, cause they doesn't know that there is rules what you can break and rules what you can't break. So Ubisoft, you need make actions! Remove this rule or start punish. Can't have rules what ppl can break without any consequences.

    And if you wont remove it, then stop promoting ppl who break your own rules. In last art competition, one winner sell openly art for wls. So if that stays illegal, you should ban that player not give promotes and prizes /fp
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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe View Post
    If we have some rules what we need follow and some not, how on earth you think that kids know what they can do? My whole point is: Either start ban or REMOVE THAT RULE!
    Kids can't see difference in rules. If they learn that it is actually totally ok to break rules, then gt will die, cause all break rules, cause they doesn't know that there is rules what you can break and rules what you can't break. So Ubisoft, you need make actions! Remove this rule or start punish. Can't have rules what ppl can break without any consequences.

    And if you wont remove it, then stop promoting ppl who break your own rules. In last art competition, one winner sell openly art for wls. So if that stays illegal, you should ban that player not give promotes and prizes /fp
    I know you didn't read my reply yet but you should. Unless Ubi states that Growtopia fanart can be sold for in game currency/real currency then it will never be allowed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanimator View Post
    its very hard to take you seriously and hard to agree with you when you try to prove your point with broken english
    Her point is valid-ish. Ubisoft will probably never ever allow the sale of fan art tho. That would be actively PROMOTING fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopin View Post
    Her point is valid-ish. Ubisoft will probably never ever allow the sale of fan art tho. That would be actively PROMOTING fraud.
    so selling art is fraud? since when?

    wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.
    "he was convicted of fraud"

    a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.
    "mediums exposed as tricksters and frauds"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanimator View Post
    so selling art is fraud? since when?
    I said it was PROMOTING fraud. Don't get into copyright law if you can't read properly. By ALLOWING people to sell fan art for wls/real money, sellers are indirectly encouraged to "scam" people. Most sellers are on Instagram and a large majority of the growtopian population is 9 yros. If you can't see the problem do not ever go to law school
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanimator View Post
    its very hard to take you seriously and hard to agree with you when you try to prove your point with broken english
    You'll have to be considerate of people whose first/second language isn't English, and are unable to be fluent in this complex language. She does have her valid points, but causing drama this way sure is unneccessary.

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