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    Default The problem with story worlds

    Nobody ever actually reads the signs or guidebooks that tell the story in these worlds.
    Go to todays WOTD, i assure you there will be a story to the world, and tell me how many people are reading it.
    It's all about the often non-existing prize at the end, the parkour or just to beat the world.
    I have seen people write "no prize skem" at the end VIP room of a story world.
    I once wanted to make a story world, heavily story centered with adventure items but not much parkour.
    Then i realized that wouldn't work, considering what i said above.
    I'm just putting this out there, i don't think it's possible to do anything about this, you aren't going to force players to read.
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    Agreed! I'm 90% finished with an adventure world I've been working on. It's nonlinear, has a deep story with tons of lore, and even has side quests. I'm pretty happy with it, but I'm also afraid it'll all go over everyone's heads if they don't bother reading anything, and that's why I'm not motivated enough to finish it.

    Oh, and it's supposed to be part of a four-part series, which makes the problem even worse.
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    thats why i strive to not have Story in my next world cause i know most players arent reading it
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    Eh, I agree, but the way I go about this is that if at least one person will enjoy my world, I'll go on and build it anyway. It's better to think positively.
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    I am lazy to read the story in signs


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    I usually create stories for my own pleasure. Each world, to me, must be of satisfactory quality, that I do not base on whether others will even appreciate or take their time to read or understand the world. I don't like to limit my world's capabilities on other player's laziness or uninterest.
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    Of course, since gt's playerbase is mostly made up of younger kids, they'll get impatient and wont bother reading the signs.

    Dont let that bother you though, just put a story if u want. If the world is focusing more on the story, put signs telling them that the signs need to be read. Make the world extremely confusing if they didnt bother reading the story. Myeheheheehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techy View Post
    I usually create stories for my own pleasure. Each world, to me, must be of satisfactory quality, that I do not base on whether others will even appreciate or take their time to read or understand the world. I don't like to limit my world's capabilities on other player's laziness or uninterest.
    On top of my dearest Techy's statement, your goal for building a world with a rich story besides personal pleasure is also to please others. Just because the world doesn't attract every player does not mean there are a lack of players would appreciate what you've made.

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    If the parkour is not that hard, I can finish the world and grasp the story. I like creatively made stories
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    I was not aware people even visited the WoTD anymore. I stopped into the WoTD a few days ago, and there was literally zero people there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectroDream View Post
    Eh, I agree, but the way I go about this is that if at least one person will enjoy my world, I'll go on and build it anyway. It's better to think positively.
    Quote Originally Posted by Techy View Post
    I usually create stories for my own pleasure. Each world, to me, must be of satisfactory quality, that I do not base on whether others will even appreciate or take their time to read or understand the world. I don't like to limit my world's capabilities on other player's laziness or uninterest.
    These ^ I've got so many worlds I want to build, but even with the reach of a CM, I know it'll be hard to find people who appreciate it. It's not just story, it's the attention to detail between shading, creating background imagery, smoothing backgrounds & blocks with Block Glue, and creating challenges that are equally as difficult for a level 1 player with no items and a level 125 with every mod avail. It's truly the dilemma that many designers face, whether it be story, music, or art.

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    The story of the world is what keeps me going through all those difficult parkours though. The interest is even stronger if the story is made in such a way that it can be related and felt by the player through all the five senses.

    To be frank, if it is just plain parkour, I would lose interest within 5 minutes. I am sure that certain people who enjoy stories would do, too.

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    My issue with this is that for a parkour world to win wotd it is expected that it has some story elements, despite not many being too interested in it.
    Usually those stories tend to be of very low quality, because duh, having a good story won't better your world in the view of the majority, which also includes the people that pick wotds.
    Many world creators are quite young, or have poor english skills as well.
    This leads to even the few people that would usually be interested in or snoop about the story due to curiosity to mostly ignore it.

    Going the non-convential route and excluding a story when you don't think it fits the theme of your world could very easily be regarded as absence of effort, so here we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectroDream View Post
    Eh, I agree, but the way I go about this is that if at least one person will enjoy my world, I'll go on and build it anyway. It's better to think positively.
    This is similar to what I do.
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    It's true that lots of people don't bother reading stories, but yeah, 'lots of people' and not all of them, this small fraction of people will truly appreciate your work which is the reason why I love making story-based worlds. Just build a world and it'll gain recognition; if it doesn't, PM me and I'll read the hell out of your stories and will totally recognise your work.
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    This is because most of the stories are really really bad. Most people growtopia-aged don't know how to write stories, and I can't be bothered to read their attempts.

    I mean some stories are good but... not very many
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    Considering that a percentage of players do not speak english and are basically underaged children, it is pointless to write philosophy or literacy in Growtopia unless you target a specific audience (Which means not World of The Day).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JicinIsInvalid View Post
    Considering that a percentage of players do not speak english and are basically underaged children, it is pointless to write philosophy or literacy in Growtopia unless you target a specific audience (Which means not World of The Day).
    Many children's books integrate philosophy in their stories. It shouldn't be impossible. The challenge is combating children's impulse to continuously look for more. Teachers are commendable because of the complex lessons they've finetuned to cater with the unskilled and young audience. Skilled world builders aiming for WOTD must remain to instill a similar mindset when driven by the intention of setting goal narratives. Complacency begets complacency and should not be rewarded with a WOTD trophy.
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    builders write stories so that they get even more motivated in finishing a world

    although ppl won't read it
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    I have a dream of bulding of deep story worlds, until i seen this thread, my dream turned to ashes...
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