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    IMO growtopia should have just stuck to the splicing + building aspect of the game instead of enforcing economics and introducing a lot of minigame-like systems that give exclusive prizes.

    The systems are, in my opinion, lack depth and are way too isolated from anything else in the game to provide engaging experience for more than the first few days. The only reason anyone is still doing stuff like crime fighting is to get their hands on new or expensive items as a prize.

    The attempts to revitalize these minigame systems are lame as most of the time they just add more items into the prize pool and call it a day. The system stays as uninteresting as always, but with a new incentive to play with it.
    (i would like to point out how pet battling does the absolute opposite: an in-depth system, but no proper rewards apart from pet trainers and tournament(if anyone is even doing it). And yet no one touches pet battling because you can't profit off it)

    The worst part about these systems is that most of the time they require you to spend gems or world locks in order to experience the system(and receive items from a loot table), which pressures people to start working to get world locks or gems, usually via farming or other grindy methods. It's like going to work.



    I enjoyed growtopia most during its first years since it was centered around splicing(which i absolutely love about this game), world building, socializing and exploring worlds built by other people.

    Non-world locked freebuild worlds were my favourite worlds as you had a bunch of people building their own houses and stuff on the limited area they managed to lock up. It was fun to go through the cluster of janky minihouses of various odd shapes and sizes while trying to find your way out into the unlocked territory.

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    Growtopia is (and for nearly all of its existence, has been) a horrible mess of a game, more so than any MMO or even any game I’ve ever seen.

    I could go into more detail but in short, the developers had no unified idea of what the game should be, and so added a bunch of unrelated nonsense willy-nilly. The only logical end goal then became getting as rich/famous as possible.

    There’s really no saving it. Any update you propose would just end up like every other update in the past several years: forgotten within a month. There are so many updates, so many items, so many different THINGS in this game, and nothing to connect them all to one another besides the economy, so they all get promptly reduced to a WL price and forgotten.

    If you’re bored, play something else. Growtopia has been allowed to fester for long enough that it’s past the point where anyone or anything could make it a good game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kartosh View Post
    You need to understand that years of work and effort have been put into this current game to bring it to where it is now. Starting off new would simply make no sense.
    I’m quite confident that the original version of Growtopia from 2013 (which I didn’t play, and therefore I am not just saying this out of nostalgia) is LEAGUES better than what the game has become.

    I’d rather have a streamlined, simple game about crafting through splicing than the disorganized, bloated disaster that Growtopia has been for at least the past six years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abt79 View Post
    There’s really no saving it. Any update you propose would just end up like every other update in the past several years: forgotten within a month. There are so many updates, so many items, so many different THINGS in this game, and nothing to connect them all to one another besides the economy, so they all get promptly reduced to a WL price and forgotten.
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    THIS LITERALLY SAYS EVERYTHING. Whatever you say "we need this", "we need this", many will still hate and forget it.
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    It's not Growtopia, It's Growtopians.

    Toxicity starts at Pioneers and Greedy people.

    The influence of content creator of some video sharing platform.
    Just searching Growtopia will give you a query of not how to play the game but
    profiteering
    Scamming
    Hacking & glitching
    Pretending to be a noob
    and a lot of more toxicity and immature content.

    The fool should not walk behind of other fools.

    Best thing to do is to be Civil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermarine View Post
    Shutdown console's server + announce Growtopia 2
    I don't know who ask for the console's server. When it was announced I already know what it gonna turnout and it pretty much did. It becomes a ghost town abandon by developers(kind of). I don't know how you got that idea because it so hard to play and cannot crossplay. Does the income worth the maintenance price? I don't think so. If you really want more people to know the game and make player start from scratch like some people want why not make Growtopia 2 because it seems like everything is so hard to implement in Growtopia that you can only release limited update and the source code and everything you build the game on the old and outdated foundation that make the game easy to hack. If you cannot tear it down why not release a brand new version.

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    Growtopia needs revamping and bug fixes more than it needs updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HugeLock View Post
    Growtopia needs revamping and bug fixes more than it needs updates.
    Yeah! they should stop updates. run only old events and make some new stuff for these events and meanwhile, when they have more time (more time cause they wont waste it for new amazing life changing updates) they could fix bugs, focus of game security fixes and maybe find way to fight against hackers.

    We don't need amazing game changing updates all the time. We can wait, if they start fix problems what we have rn and they would tell that to us, we could understand it an we would accept that in next 2-6 months there wouldn't be any new big updates, while they fix all old stuff and makes game more secured to us.

    So what i would want is, that they stop creating anything new rn and focus on fixes and game security and makes some improvements what players has suggested in past 2 years.

    And update all rules, tell us what are our punishments and so on. I still don't know what gt rules i need follow and what i can ignore and i have asked many times why guild needs have freeload possibility, why they can't kill freeloaders with simple update, but well, i get 0 answers and well.. idk why i would even bother to try anymore in here. There is other games so i need just move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Wilson View Post


    I agree with pretty much everything you said. You've refuted all his points with a clear and proper manner using simple logic. For the last sentence, the reason I was attracted to Growtopia was because you could meet people worldwide from many different nationalities in a simple 2D game, socialise with them, make new buddies, etc...

    Also what was nice before was that we used to farm and build together so there was always something we could do in our time. I do agree that the community may have been obsessed with the integrity of the pixel currency but well, who cares right? This game is about having fun, and even sometimes when it gets boring, I'd go host mini games since I don't really care about wls or dls

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    Stopping updates won't be the solution to the game, it'd just make the game more repeated and people would get bored off eventually. Also, the last "game-changing update" that I remember was when Magplants and Raymans were introduced via IOTMS. The rest aren't really much of game changers to be fair. Bugs are already getting fixed, and they already have a team on security. You see, this is Ubisoft, not Seth and Hamumu anymore. There isn't just "one" team that focuses on one subject like the updates. They have separate teams of qualified people for each part of the game.

    Also to stop people from getting hacked, the problem isn't from how bad the system's security is. It's how easily these growtopians are to getting manipulated and therefore lose their items. I've been playing since forever and I've never gotten hacked. There are many reasons to getting hacked in Growtopia and most of them are just because of the growtopian's carelessness.

    The updating rules part, I totally agree. There are some rules that are just silly like "sharing accounts will result in a ban". What if my cousin is going on a holiday in Hawaii and they don't have wifi there, and he wants me to go farm for him? I wouldn't be able to because sharing accounts is illegal. I don't get this rule. Why would anyone give share their account details to someone they don't trust in the first place? And if they do get scammed, it's 100% the person's fault (who gave him the details). Scamming is a bad thing sure, but do they necessarily need to apply the rule to everyone? We do have siblings that want to help occasionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fathi11 GT View Post
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    I agree with pretty much everything you said. You've refuted all his points with a clear and proper manner using simple logic. For the last sentence, the reason I was attracted to Growtopia was because you could meet people worldwide from many different nationalities in a simple 2D game, socialise with them, make new buddies, etc...

    Also what was nice before was that we used to farm and build together so there was always something we could do in our time. I do agree that the community may have been obsessed with the integrity of the pixel currency but well, who cares right? This game is about having fun, and even sometimes when it gets boring, I'd go host mini games since I don't really care about wls or dls

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    Stopping updates won't be the solution to the game, it'd just make the game more repeated and people would get bored off eventually. Also, the last "game-changing update" that I remember was when Magplants and Raymans were introduced via IOTMS. The rest aren't really much of game changers to be fair. Bugs are already getting fixed, and they already have a team on security. You see, this is Ubisoft, not Seth and Hamumu anymore. There isn't just "one" team that focuses on one subject like the updates. They have separate teams of qualified people for each part of the game.

    Also to stop people from getting hacked, the problem isn't from how bad the system's security is. It's how easily these growtopians are to getting manipulated and therefore lose their items. I've been playing since forever and I've never gotten hacked. There are many reasons to getting hacked in Growtopia and most of them are just because of the growtopian's carelessness.

    The updating rules part, I totally agree. There are some rules that are just silly like "sharing accounts will result in a ban". What if my cousin is going on a holiday in Hawaii and they don't have wifi there, and he wants me to go farm for him? I wouldn't be able to because sharing accounts is illegal. I don't get this rule. Why would anyone give share their account details to someone they don't trust in the first place? And if they do get scammed, it's 100% the person's fault (who gave him the details). Scamming is a bad thing sure, but do they necessarily need to apply the rule to everyone? We do have siblings that want to help occasionally.
    I think that the "sharing accounts will result in a ban" rule is a way of saying that they are not responsible for what happens to your account when you share your account. I would think of it as a safety net.

    No one can say that thier account got banned because they shared it with a family member or friend and the person they shared the account with actually caused the ban.

    I think they also don't want to have to use time an energy fixing damage that happens to some ones account because they decided to share it with some one else.

    It probably is possible for people to share accounts in an innocent way but I also imagine support desk being flooded with emails because sharing accounts caused bad situations.

    Also you don't need to actually let some one log onto your account directly to work together. You can pass them farmables or give them access to your world if you decide you can trust a person that much.

    Ultimately I think a rule like that is made because it's easier to say don't share accounts than it is to deal with all the problems sharing an account can cause. If sharing accounts didn't result in so many problems it probably wouldn't of been a rule.

    I think a lot of rules came to exist because they didn't want to deal with the problems people create for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Wilson View Post
    I think that the "sharing accounts will result in a ban" rule is a way of saying that they are not responsible for what happens to your account when you share your account. I would think of it as a safety net.

    No one can say that thier account got banned because they shared it with a family member or friend and the person they shared the account with actually caused the ban.

    I think they also don't want to have to use time an energy fixing damage that happens to some ones account because they decided to share it with some one else.

    It probably is possible for people to share accounts in an innocent way but I also imagine support desk being flooded with emails because sharing accounts caused bad situations.

    Also you don't need to actually let some one log onto your account directly to work together. You can pass them farmables or give them access to your world if you decide you can trust a person that much.

    Ultimately I think a rule like that is made because it's easier to say don't share accounts than it is to deal with all the problems sharing an account can cause. If sharing accounts didn't result in so many problems it probably wouldn't of been a rule.

    I think a lot of rules came to exist because they didn't want to deal with the problems people create for themselves.
    Why not set rule that if u share acc and get banned or whatever, support will ignore all messages. It is not growtopia staff problem for real if someone shares acc and get scammed, it's players problem. Same with art selling, if you buy outgame art and get scammed, it's your problem, not anyone else's. Better just allow this art selling stuff than say that it is illegal but we don't ban sellers or buyers. FP So in some cases, rules are just stupid and hard to understand for kids and even for adults. Why have rules what you can break openly? I don't want that my kid learns stuff like this.

    And when i mentioned game changing, i meant roots, mercy wings, anubis and all those. If they would stop creating new and just start make suggestions true, we would maybe stay in this game. But ignoring most of suggestions makes us to think/feel (you cant blame us for feelings) that no one listens to us and we are just what no one cares. So stop making your own updates, make suggestions true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Listen to the community!!!!! That is all what i ask and i get ignored over and over again and that's why i want move on
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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenChloe View Post
    Why not set rule that if u share acc and get banned or whatever, support will ignore all messages. It is not growtopia staff problem for real if someone shares acc and get scammed, it's players problem. Same with art selling, if you buy outgame art and get scammed, it's your problem, not anyone else's. Better just allow this art selling stuff than say that it is illegal but we don't ban sellers or buyers. FP So in some cases, rules are just stupid and hard to understand for kids and even for adults. Why have rules what you can break openly? I don't want that my kid learns stuff like this.

    And when i mentioned game changing, i meant roots, mercy wings, anubis and all those. If they would stop creating new and just start make suggestions true, we would maybe stay in this game. But ignoring most of suggestions makes us to think/feel (you cant blame us for feelings) that no one listens to us and we are just what no one cares. So stop making your own updates, make suggestions true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Listen to the community!!!!! That is all what i ask and i get ignored over and over again and that's why i want move on
    I would love to do a Q and A with the developers. I think it would probably be beneficial for them to do a "AMA" or ask me anything type post on the forums. I think it would it could do a lot of good.

    I think to much is left open to interpretation and to many assumptions get made on a lot of topics.

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    O em ji.

    This thread is another fiasco. But I do agree
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