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    Quote Originally Posted by hi guise View Post
    im sorry to hear that that is why we need this world to tell people that lgbtq people are just human like everyone else
    The problem isn't the sexual orientation or gender of the people here, the issue is the people who are bringing this political issue into Growtopia, a videogame mostly played by kids.
    Feel free to discuss these things elsewhere, but don't bring this political issue into Growtopia, because kids can't respect you, no matter how you try to convince them.

    I support people being like they want, but the thing that bothers me is bringing any kind of unnecessary political drama into a videogame mostly played by kids.

    But the sad reality is, that most of the playerbase of Growtopia consists of kids that have been taught that being gay is wrong, either because of religion or their culture.
    And that's why the kids cannot respect different people.
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    Weird thread tbh.....

    But I don't mind help designing a rainbow mainworld

    Just guys don't be so serious about real life political topics on this forum, just an recommendation.

    And I am pretty sure an admin's gonna close this thread if we gonna keep talking about "LGBTQ" itself, as one of them said before"it is illegal to talk about sexual orientation in Growtopia and Growtopia Forum".

    A year ago or before a user tried to talk/suggest about having "LGBT Pride Week" event in Growtopia (on forum) and got furious + toxic when arguing with other Forumers, the thread ended up having being closed.

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    First of all, I don't think we need any more orgies going on about LGBT stuff, whether it is just an online game or the real life protests. In my opinion it is not normal. But you know what's funny? Nobody's opinions matter on the internet, everyone writes "opinions" and the people are just scrolling down!" If mother nature had a foot she would kick you in the face.

    Secondly, if you were confident enough in your decision (people say it's a decision, I don't know) you wouldn't be so butthurt about others using it as an insult! If you knew what you were going into when you were choosing that, you should've prepared for the consequences and the outcome of it! If you are confident enough in what you like, you simply wouldn't care and try to spread it. In fact, I believe if you did this in real life people would do something really bad, I'm not gonna say what, you let your mind flow. Luckily Growtopia is small and virtual so you're safe, but doesn't give you the right to push it against everyone's nose.

    BUT NEX, I'M NOT PUSHING IT AGAINST EVERYONE'S NOSE, YOU JUST HATE LGBT POPULATION AND WANT EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF IT TO BURN IN 9TH CIRCLE OF HELL!

    No, that is not what I said. I personally do not LIKE it, as long as I'm not getting pressured by the mentioned surrounding I'm good. I just don't want any of that stuff near me, I'm good. And I think many will agree.

    The point of this needlessly big thread is to not advertise the minority over the self suffered problematics/happenings or whatever. Keep it to yourself and everyone is happy!

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    What really ticks me off is the vast lack of misunderstanding and ignorance in this thread alone. Heck, some people just said it’s a choice and political.

    Dear OP, as an openly bisexual person I would be more than glad to help create this world with you, as I understand how difficult it is to be self-opressed due to lack of acceptance from peers and not being taught much about sexuality at a young age.

    There any many ignorant claims and misunderstandings by users under this thread so let me try explain a few if possible.

    1. Being LGBTQ+ isn’t a choice, I did not choose to be attracted to boys and girls and I have been taught that it was a sin and I should never feel this way for the entirety of my upbringing. My family has even been kicked out of our old church because of it. This resulted in my insecurity and self-hatred for many years as I opressed myself and wished ‘why can’t I be normal’. Not to go into specifics but because of these situations I have been subjected to, I have faced some dark thoughts and did some regrettable things. It is very important to be validated, trust me, some lives can depend on it. Now after I have actually been COMFORTED by fellow members of the community, I have come to terms with it and have confidence in my sexuality. It is my normal and I embrace it.

    I don’t want anybody to ever go through that, so be it simply a sign in a world saying ‘Don’t be afraid to be you’ or anything else, it can go a really long way. As someone who has faced years of bullying and insecurity over this, I assure you that acceptance from others and being told it’s ok is an extremely important thing. It doesn’t have to be some controversial debate.

    2. Sexuality is not political just because it isn’t straight. Saying we can’t bring any discussions in regards to LGBTQ+ in growtopia is basically like saying straight people can’t identify and discuss being straight. However they still do, and in growtopia there is a vast amount of straight players who are under the impression that being LGBTQ+ is bad, its a choice and many other misconceptions. We can’t just simply pretend gay, trans, asexual etc people don’t exist, just because it’s convenient for you.

    3. Everybody deserves to be told they are valued and important, it is basically a human requirement to be loved and accepted, with a community that calls me a ‘f*ggot’ or ‘gay’ just because of who I am, it’s genuinely hurtful. My insecurities deeply woven into me are still triggered every single day, and I still have to accept it and not discuss it, however the second somebody actually speaks up for once in the forums you all attack us. It’s discrimination, just like how racism is discrimination however people seem to neglect LGBTQ+ people because it’s more convenient to them, rather than to actually accept that it is affecting people’s lives.

    4. We aren’t pushing a gay agenda, if you’re straight? Great! If you’re gay, hurray! If you’re asexual, thats awesome, and so on. Everybody is valid, and should not be forgotten about.
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    yeah you're gonna talk this out to a community of mostly kids where most of them just follows whatever their parents thought or what people think. Further more, majority of the kids here aren't even into all these stuffs yet. as much as I respect people for any of their sexuality, things like these aren't gonna work in this game
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    I would suggest on making the focus about being tolerant in general and not narrow it down to a specific group. That way more people may want to be included instead of just people in the group you are focused on.

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    I feel like this thread will get pretty bad soon, make the world if you want to, i don't care about who you like or who you are as long as you're not toxic.
    You can't contain the unfriendly in-game community, try if you want to. No offense, i have nothing against LGBT folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erida View Post
    What really ticks me off is the vast lack of misunderstanding and ignorance in this thread alone. Heck, some people just said it’s a choice and political.

    Dear OP, as an openly bisexual person I would be more than glad to help create this world with you, as I understand how difficult it is to be self-opressed due to lack of acceptance from peers and not being taught much about sexuality at a young age.

    There any many ignorant claims and misunderstandings by users under this thread so let me try explain a few if possible.

    1. Being LGBTQ+ isn’t a choice, I did not choose to be attracted to boys and girls and I have been taught that it was a sin and I should never feel this way for the entirety of my upbringing. My family has even been kicked out of our old church because of it. This resulted in my insecurity and self-hatred for many years as I opressed myself and wished ‘why can’t I be normal’. Not to go into specifics but because of these situations I have been subjected to, I have faced some dark thoughts and did some regrettable things. It is very important to be validated, trust me, some lives can depend on it. Now after I have actually been COMFORTED by fellow members of the community, I have come to terms with it and have confidence in my sexuality. It is my normal and I embrace it.

    I don’t want anybody to ever go through that, so be it simply a sign in a world saying ‘Don’t be afraid to be you’ or anything else, it can go a really long way. As someone who has faced years of bullying and insecurity over this, I assure you that acceptance from others and being told it’s ok is an extremely important thing. It doesn’t have to be some controversial debate.

    2. Sexuality is not political just because it isn’t straight. Saying we can’t bring any discussions in regards to LGBTQ+ in growtopia is basically like saying straight people can’t identify and discuss being straight. However they still do, and in growtopia there is a vast amount of straight players who are under the impression that being LGBTQ+ is bad, its a choice and many other misconceptions. We can’t just simply pretend gay, trans, asexual etc people don’t exist, just because it’s convenient for you.

    3. Everybody deserves to be told they are valued and important, it is basically a human requirement to be loved and accepted, with a community that calls me a ‘f*ggot’ or ‘gay’ just because of who I am, it’s genuinely hurtful. My insecurities deeply woven into me are still triggered every single day, and I still have to accept it and not discuss it, however the second somebody actually speaks up for once in the forums you all attack us. It’s discrimination, just like how racism is discrimination however people seem to neglect LGBTQ+ people because it’s more convenient to them, rather than to actually accept that it is affecting people’s lives.

    4. We aren’t pushing a gay agenda, if you’re straight? Great! If you’re gay, hurray! If you’re asexual, thats awesome, and so on. Everybody is valid, and should not be forgotten about.
    Look at our argument too. It's not ignorance.

    You do NOT need to involve KIDS who don't know better into this.
    Don't pull out the gayphobia card please, look at our argument also.

    Nobody here has said that LGBTQABCDEFG people don't deserve to be told that they are valued.
    Nobody here has claimed that it's a choice to be or not to be either.
    Nobody has said that you want to push it on others, but that's what you're trying to do.

    I respect all people, I do not disrespect them because of what they like.

    I would suggest that if you make this world, don't make it a specific group acceptance, make it about all acceptance, for example religion and race, and how to be nice to all people in general.

    For example: teaching kids how to be nice, by teaching them words like "thank you" or compliments in general.

    You do not need to make it specific.

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    Being any of the LGBT is same as having a small *****. You know people are gonna laugh at you, mock you, insult you for that. If they tell you "Hahahaha James you have a small *****!" Are you gonna say "Yes, so what?" I don't think you would. AND YOU KNOW why is that.

    As I said in my last post, being strangely different has its own consequences. If you are already any of the LGBTQABCDEF (I like this) why would you share it wide and loud if YOU KNOW people are gonna hurt you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedyNex View Post

    As I said in my last post, being strangely different has its own consequences. If you are already any of the LGBTQABCDEF (I like this) why would you share it wide and loud if YOU KNOW people are gonna hurt you?
    We don’t want anybody else go to through what we have endured, I don’t care if this sounds pretentious but most straight cis people will never understand what we have to go through everyday online and offline because of who we are. I’m sure if you researched some statistics on [Trigger Warning] SH you would be extremely surprised. For reasons like these people have made many protests and are making real change all around the real and digital world. However growtopia is still a mainly hateful and homophobic community who genuinely offend LGBTQ+ people.

    Take for example how you are currently mocking the community by making an alphabetical mess out of it on purpose, it’s hateful and disrespectful, not edgy and quirky.

    We don’t even need to share it to be hated, in the game ‘gay’ and ‘f*ggot’ are already used as insults, we all take a whole lot of sh** from this game and don’t say anything but it’s genuinely hurtful. It should stop even just a little, or we could atleast create a safespace so people aren’t insecure about who they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erida View Post
    We don’t want anybody else go to through what we have endured, I don’t care if this sounds pretentious but most straight cis people will never understand what we have to go through everyday online and offline because of who we are. I’m sure if you researched some statistics on [Trigger Warning] SH you would be extremely surprised. For reasons like these people have made many protests and are making real change all around the real and digital world. However growtopia is still a mainly hateful and homophobic community who genuinely offend LGBTQ+ people.

    Take for example how you are currently mocking the community by making an alphabetical mess out of it on purpose, it’s hateful and disrespectful, not edgy and quirky.

    We don’t even need to share it to be hated, in the game ‘gay’ and ‘f*ggot’ are already used as insults, we all take a whole lot of sh** from this game and don’t say anything but it’s genuinely hurtful. It should stop even just a little, or we could atleast create a safespace so people aren’t insecure about who they are.
    That's pure hipocricy.

    Don't bring this into Growtopia. The best thing to do right now is report the player and /ignore them.

    Don't think you're any special from others either, don't act like it.

    You can't just slap the 'gayphobia' card to the table for every non-offensive criticism either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HugeLock View Post
    That's pure hipocricy.
    How so? Please elaborate.

    Quote Originally Posted by HugeLock View Post
    You can't just slap the 'gayphobia' card to the table either.
    You realise the point of this thread is to try to limit homophobia, transphobia and other forms of hate, then in turn spreading acceptance. It isn’t slapping a card on a table, it’s just the reality we live in.
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