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    (Most) of the entire game is a gamble. Let's just remove the entire game instead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsKyan View Post
    STOP MAKING SUGGESTIONS IN THE UPDATE DISCUSSIONS! STOP
    Right... Got too used to posting in the update discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGrowtopiaChicken View Post
    intensively trying to think about something funny to comment because this idea won't work out anyway
    Well it's worth a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETS4GO View Post
    This issue has been talked about multiple times but usually targeted through the casino wheel. People made a casino game out of chandeliers, so shall we remove all farmable? Honestly it would just be pointless
    Starting with items that immediately invokes ideas about casinos would be a better start than straight away picking on farmables. Casinos will probably never be completely removed, the main aim is to make it harder to open/start a casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimIzPro View Post
    I laughed when you said rename the pack to Las Vegas
    No, the added information was not a suggestion to rename the pack to 'Las vegas', it was to point out that 'vegas' subtly refers to 'Las vegas'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techy View Post
    Inherently you don't know the entire ins and outs of present-day casinos (I'd advise you study your subject matter before you start suggestion solutions to it, aka, check yourself before you wreck yourself). Casinso work on the basis of any form of RNG. Removing roulette wheel's functions (and abundantly used gambling tools like dice blocks) would not solve the issue, nor greatly affect it. There are alternatives that some casinos use such as using the drop rates of gems for gambling, or SSU, or the drops of a dirt tree, to name a few.

    This has been suggested so many times, would you think they would've done this by now to prevent casinos if it even had an impact?
    It won't solve the issue, everyone knows that. One step in the right direction is still a step taken.

    Sorry for the lack of the latest casino knowledge and the alternative rng items like planting a dirt tree. That's new info to me.

    But then again, leaving the roulette wheel, roshambo block and whatever else that are commonly found in casinos as it is also isn't a good option, which is why this thread is open to suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spotch View Post
    Even if they remove all this, players still find a way to gamble.
    True, which is why the thread isn't about removing casinos from the game entirely. Updated the contents to make things clearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedaki View Post
    Remove all male hairs because they are sexist
    No u.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGrowtopiaChicken View Post
    intensively trying to think about something funny to comment because this idea won't work out anyway
    Which idea or suggestion would not work out? Did some edits to make things a little clearer. Unless actions are taken we will never truly know if it would work or not. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxeyBoy View Post
    (Most) of the entire game is a gamble. Let's just remove the entire game instead.


    I am sorry for this slightly offensive reply as I don't wanna start a flame war.
    This thread lighted a spark, that's for sure lmao. Not sure if that is good or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakum View Post
    Let us also remove the drop function to put an end to drop games, remove broadcasts to put an end to phishing sites, and remove DLs so people can't sell them for money.
    Okay, edited the post. I assume you are talking about the part where I said to attack the problem at its roots. Your ideas are much more radical than mine, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cultivator View Post
    Good Idea!
    While you're remove gems to prevent buy gems scam

    Remove Safe Vault since you can still break a world lock in a world with safe vault

    Remove vending machine since people can still fake text with typing.

    In all seriousness though

    Make it so Gems count as "Floating Items" like in growscan. So one has to place blocks to sell it. This prevent world trade scams at least.

    Make it so Safe Vault placed down with password would make the World Lock Unbreakable. (A current way of usage for this currently I think(Did not test) is to use a guild lock.) Also make the world name unchangable if one of the world has Safe Vault. So hackers can't bypass it.

    In a world of vending machine where the price heavily differs from original, 1 more additional alert would pop up when purchasing. Also make it so in a world where there are multiple reports of vend scam from a x level of players or something, all vending and vending machines thats placed or to be placed would have an additional alert for the next 10 minutes or so. (Make it so players report on this don't duplicate incase bot abuse etc)

    I only thought of this within a few minutes, now imagine how many more to be fixed?

    Chill man, let them fix when they can.
    In all seriousness, your serious ideas are cool. Though those are problems, I'm trying to make the thread more targeted towards casinos rather than the general problems about safe vault and vend scams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsKyan View Post
    STOP MAKING SUGGESTIONS IN THE UPDATE DISCUSSIONS! STOP
    I mean if we really want to push it, this can also be a update discussion on the Vegas pack. *shrugs in helpless*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techy View Post
    Inherently you don't know the entire ins and outs of present-day casinos (I'd advise you study your subject matter before you start suggestion solutions to it, aka, check yourself before you wreck yourself). Casinso work on the basis of any form of RNG. Removing roulette wheel's functions (and abundantly used gambling tools like dice blocks) would not solve the issue, nor greatly affect it. There are alternatives that some casinos use such as using the drop rates of gems for gambling, or SSU, or the drops of a dirt tree, to name a few.

    This has been suggested so many times, would you think they would've done this by now to prevent casinos if it even had an impact?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecchi View Post
    Edit: The word 'removal' in the title seems too strong of a word. Here we go, a new title : Changing of items with clear relations to gambling, their names and functions.

    The main aim would be to make the opening of a casino harder, removing casinos entirely would be a nice dream.

    Note: All items that rely on RNG is capable of being used in a casino, therefore efforts in this thread will be focused on items that immediately remind people of the idea of gambling/casino.

    It will help with the reduction casinos in the long run. If you want to tackle a problem, attack it at its roots. ( ok mabye not at its roots since RNG is too deeply Imbedded in this game. So let's start with superficial problems then)

    Suggestions:

    . Prevent the roulette wheel from spinning and providing numbers ( edit : mabye just prevent numbers from showing up)

    . Change the name of the item "Gambler's Visor" (so far no one seems to have a problem with this suggestion)

    . Remove the functions of a slot machine

    . Change the name of the 'Vegas pack' ( Las Vegas is well known as a place for gambling)


    These are just some of the changes that could be made. Leave your suggestions below and I'll update the list.
    Ok so ur saying they should remove dice block, roshambo block, torches and etc? There's no actual way to prevent people from gambling so there's no point in removing those items or remove their function + It will affect the community as a whole. Let's say there's someone who is massing roulette wheel and he already spent 20dls + on that, what would happen to such players once the roulette wheel has been nerfed and the price drops by at least 50%? This has been suggested way too many items and I don't think it's ever gonna happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecchi View Post
    it was to point out that 'vegas' subtly refers to 'Las vegas'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Law_Growtopia View Post
    Ok so ur saying they should remove dice block, roshambo block, torches and etc? There's no actual way to prevent people from gambling so there's no point in removing those items or remove their function + It will affect the community as a whole. Let's say there's someone who is massing roulette wheel and he already spent 20dls + on that, what would happen to such players once the roulette wheel has been nerfed and the price drops by at least 50%? This has been suggested way too many items and I don't think it's ever gonna happen
    I knew people would be talking about the word 'removal' in the title, therefore I added some extra description in the first paragraph of the thread.

    Any form of change in this game will result in changes to the community as a whole. The question is whether such changes to the roulette wheel and other casino items will bring in more benefit to the whole community in the long run or will the 'nerfing' as you stated bring greater devastating effects to the players who mass roulette wheels and other commonly used items in a casino. Its just weighing the pros and cons.

    I'll bring in the example of the rayman + chicken plow glitch. Why was the glitch removed even though it benefits the farmers, chicken plow sellers and rayman users? It is because those items were not created with the intention of being used together. Just like the Vegas pack, it was created with good intentions but as gambling and casinos became more and more of a nuisance and temptation to the normal player base, it started to cause harm instead and regulations were put in place.

    Out of sight, out of mind. Yes, players who have already been exposed to gambling and casinos will not find such suggestions useful as casinos have been a long lasting problem with no signs of vanishing anytime soon. But, if we think about the future players who join growtopia, (not saying that my suggestions are correct) such suggestions if implemented, will reduce the exposure of casinos to the newer players who did not join with the intention of making a quick buck.

    Just a added question: Why would changing the functions of a roulette wheel affect the people who mass produce them? Unless they are massing with the intention of supplying casinos and whether they are consciously doing it is another question. Roulette wheels can still be used and bought by people who wish to decorate and mass slot machines.

    These suggestions may or may not happen. You miss a 100% of the shots that you don't take, ill rather take a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m456 View Post
    The video is on point. Therefore vegas pack needs to be renamed to something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecchi View Post
    Edit: The word 'removal' in the title seems too strong of a word. Here we go, a new title : Changing of items with clear relations to gambling, their names and functions.

    The main aim would be to make the opening of a casino harder, removing casinos entirely would be a nice dream.

    Note: All items that rely on RNG is capable of being used in a casino, therefore efforts in this thread will be focused on items that immediately remind people of the idea of gambling/casino.

    It will help with the reduction casinos in the long run. If you want to tackle a problem, attack it at its roots. ( ok mabye not at its roots since RNG is too deeply Imbedded in this game. So let's start with superficial problems then)

    Suggestions:

    . Prevent the roulette wheel from spinning and providing numbers ( edit : mabye just prevent numbers from showing up)

    . Change the name of the item "Gambler's Visor" (so far no one seems to have a problem with this suggestion)

    . Remove the functions of a slot machine

    . Change the name of the 'Vegas pack' ( Las Vegas is well known as a place for gambling)


    These are just some of the changes that could be made. Leave your suggestions below and I'll update the list.
    sorry bro but i disagree. Casinos, drop games, and all sorts of scammers also support our game too. Im not saying that I like scammers, its just that, wouldnt Growtopia be boring if you were rich all the time, experiencing the same thing over and over? Scammers help the process since they reset some people so they can work hard again and learn from that lesson.
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